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This is a fairly good idea. I think funding OS Office solutions would be feasible. It would be the cheapest thing any government ever did when it approached sof

This is a fairly good idea. I think funding OS Office solutions would be feasible. It would be the cheapest thing any government ever did when it approached software. And no, the average clerk can just a well use Word 95 and Libre Office is often just as feature rich as the MS alternative. The largest difference is Excel I believe. Well, then use Excel, but the rest isn't needed for anything.

dagw 5y ago
My understanding is that the problem isn't Office itself, but the cloud and online collaboration features. So saying "just use Word95 or Open Office" is in no way a solution.
- raxxorrax 5y ago
  I can understand teams, but I always think about "collaboration" as a waste of time in day to day business. People happily share on network drives and if you really need SharePoint, take a look at Nextcloud. Domain controlling is perhaps something not easily replaced, but the rest is just fluff in my opinion. Teams might be the most useful app of all the bunch. Seeing other cursors in a Word document was a fun at first, now it only induces endless rage and while neat, it certainly isn't a requirement.
  - halo37253 5y ago
    To implement Nextcloud to the same level as Sharepoint, big money would need to be spent. Remember this data can never be lost, and needs little to no downtime. Building your own cloud service is no cheap and easy option. Epically when its a bank. Even a custom solution built on opensource tech was used, they would be responsible to keep it updated. That in itself is a massive task. There is a reason why Azure and AWS based cloud systems are pretty much a standard. There isn't a solid alt. O365 Exchange keep you free from worrying about keeping your server up to date. O365 Teams allows for not only communication but collaboration. Teams integrates with SharePoint allowing for project sites. O365 Sharepoint & Onedrive allow for extremely flexible data storage and data shares. With all the permission options you'd ever need. You can move your AD Login's user folder to use your personal Onedrive account, a highly effective tool. There just isn't good options to replace O365. Google's GSuite is a crappy alt for Admins that couldn't figure out 365's complex admin consoles.
halo37253 5y ago
Word Excel is a small part of O365. They clearly are talking about Teams, Sharepoint, Onedrive, and Outlook. O365 is by far the best option out there, especially compared to others in the same price range. Like Google's Gsuit which for the money is a second rate product. Only reason why GSuite is even used for many is ease of use. MS's 365 suite requires an experienced IT wizard to setup correctly. With about a dozen Admin consoles to shift through, especially with any Azure services used. A real O365 alternative would be bad news for MS, and would require a massive amount of cash. It took over a decade to get 365 where it is now. This isn't something you can build overnight.

dagw 5y ago

My understanding is that the problem isn't Office itself, but the cloud and online collaboration features. So saying "just use Word95 or Open Office" is in no way a solution.

raxxorrax 5y ago
I can understand teams, but I always think about "collaboration" as a waste of time in day to day business. People happily share on network drives and if you really need SharePoint, take a look at Nextcloud. Domain controlling is perhaps something not easily replaced, but the rest is just fluff in my opinion. Teams might be the most useful app of all the bunch. Seeing other cursors in a Word document was a fun at first, now it only induces endless rage and while neat, it certainly isn't a requirement.
- halo37253 5y ago
  To implement Nextcloud to the same level as Sharepoint, big money would need to be spent. Remember this data can never be lost, and needs little to no downtime. Building your own cloud service is no cheap and easy option. Epically when its a bank. Even a custom solution built on opensource tech was used, they would be responsible to keep it updated. That in itself is a massive task. There is a reason why Azure and AWS based cloud systems are pretty much a standard. There isn't a solid alt. O365 Exchange keep you free from worrying about keeping your server up to date. O365 Teams allows for not only communication but collaboration. Teams integrates with SharePoint allowing for project sites. O365 Sharepoint & Onedrive allow for extremely flexible data storage and data shares. With all the permission options you'd ever need. You can move your AD Login's user folder to use your personal Onedrive account, a highly effective tool. There just isn't good options to replace O365. Google's GSuite is a crappy alt for Admins that couldn't figure out 365's complex admin consoles.

halo37253 5y ago

Word Excel is a small part of O365. They clearly are talking about Teams, Sharepoint, Onedrive, and Outlook. O365 is by far the best option out there, especially compared to others in the same price range. Like Google's Gsuit which for the money is a second rate product. Only reason why GSuite is even used for many is ease of use. MS's 365 suite requires an experienced IT wizard to setup correctly. With about a dozen Admin consoles to shift through, especially with any Azure services used. A real O365 alternative would be bad news for MS, and would require a massive amount of cash. It took over a decade to get 365 where it is now. This isn't something you can build overnight.