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Jitsi?[0] It was european at one point. And online LibreOffice from Collabora?[1] [0] https://jitsi.org https://jitsi.org [1] https://www.collaboraoffice.com

by m33k44 5y ago

Jitsi?[0] It was european at one point. And online LibreOffice from Collabora?[1] [0] https://jitsi.org https://jitsi.org [1] https://www.collaboraoffice.com https://www.collaboraoffice.com

ekianjo 5y ago
Jitsi is already integrated in Element/Matrix, so Matrix/Element is a better solution to cover most needs such as chat management.
- solarkraft 5y ago
  I have trouble seeing Element as a solution for anything, to be honest. My experience with it is that it’s slow, has cumbersome/confusing UX and is unreliable. I recently re-evaluated it and came to the same conclusion. I want it to succeed, but the base line should be being better than Teams in those points and I see it far from it.
  - 29083011397778 5y ago
    > My experience with it is that it’s slow I'm guessing you created an account on the default Matrix.org homeserver? While hardware requirements have been steadily dropping for months now, the default seems to attract more than enough people to negate these advances. So while Matrix.org accounts and rooms may feel slow, I hope you'll be willing to give it another shot some day in the future. To that end, I would highly recommend setting up your own server (as the French and German government agencies have done), or even hopping on mine (email is on my profile) if you just want to test it for a day or two. As far as the cumbersome UI/UX - you got me. While some people like it, many people seem to disagree. Over time, the myriad of clients will presumably get better, and hopefully the people not currently enamored with the UX can find one they like :) Regarding reliability, you may have to expand on that. I've been using my Matrix server (and Telegram / Whatsapp bridges) to chat for months now, and have had messages come through faster for me than others in the same group chat! All that said, maybe you just had a bad experience. I'd never try and say you didn't, but hopefully there was another explanation than just "Matrix is still nowhere close to ready".
Jnr 5y ago
Jitsi is a very good solution. Probably the best open source video conferencing solution out there. A good example of it's use in EU is it's integration in online meeting platform for Latvian Parliament. It was quickly implemented once COVID-19 pandemic started. And Jitsi is a core part of it. https://www.saeima.lv/en/news/saeima-news/28986-the-latvian-parliament-ready-for-work-using-the-e-saeima-platform https://www.saeima.lv/en/news/saeima-news/28986-the-latvian-...
taylodl 5y ago
You would think the EU would be more interested in supporting Collabora seeing as how it's home-grown. Then again you'd think they'd be supporting their own Linux distros as well - such as Suse which is German again. Why isn't Europe investing in and promoting Europe?

by m33k44 5y ago

Jitsi?[0] It was european at one point. And online LibreOffice from Collabora?[1] [0] https://jitsi.org https://jitsi.org [1] https://www.collaboraoffice.com https://www.collaboraoffice.com

ekianjo 5y ago

Jitsi is already integrated in Element/Matrix, so Matrix/Element is a better solution to cover most needs such as chat management.

solarkraft 5y ago
I have trouble seeing Element as a solution for anything, to be honest. My experience with it is that it’s slow, has cumbersome/confusing UX and is unreliable. I recently re-evaluated it and came to the same conclusion. I want it to succeed, but the base line should be being better than Teams in those points and I see it far from it.
- 29083011397778 5y ago
  > My experience with it is that it’s slow I'm guessing you created an account on the default Matrix.org homeserver? While hardware requirements have been steadily dropping for months now, the default seems to attract more than enough people to negate these advances. So while Matrix.org accounts and rooms may feel slow, I hope you'll be willing to give it another shot some day in the future. To that end, I would highly recommend setting up your own server (as the French and German government agencies have done), or even hopping on mine (email is on my profile) if you just want to test it for a day or two. As far as the cumbersome UI/UX - you got me. While some people like it, many people seem to disagree. Over time, the myriad of clients will presumably get better, and hopefully the people not currently enamored with the UX can find one they like :) Regarding reliability, you may have to expand on that. I've been using my Matrix server (and Telegram / Whatsapp bridges) to chat for months now, and have had messages come through faster for me than others in the same group chat! All that said, maybe you just had a bad experience. I'd never try and say you didn't, but hopefully there was another explanation than just "Matrix is still nowhere close to ready".

Jnr 5y ago

Jitsi is a very good solution. Probably the best open source video conferencing solution out there. A good example of it's use in EU is it's integration in online meeting platform for Latvian Parliament. It was quickly implemented once COVID-19 pandemic started. And Jitsi is a core part of it. https://www.saeima.lv/en/news/saeima-news/28986-the-latvian-parliament-ready-for-work-using-the-e-saeima-platform https://www.saeima.lv/en/news/saeima-news/28986-the-latvian-...

taylodl 5y ago

You would think the EU would be more interested in supporting Collabora seeing as how it's home-grown. Then again you'd think they'd be supporting their own Linux distros as well - such as Suse which is German again. Why isn't Europe investing in and promoting Europe?