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> I despise my commute because it's time that doesn't truly belong to me and I'm not being paid for. It's getting up earlier and arriving home later… Actually,

> I despise my commute because it's time that doesn't truly belong to me and I'm not being paid for. It's getting up earlier and arriving home later… Actually, the length of your commute is the result of where you choose to live and where you choose to work. If you decide that you want those to be located an hour away from each other, like magic, that is exactly how long of a commute you are responsible for making. There are almost infinite places you could live or work. I find it quite amusing that people complain and try to externalize blame for the clear result of a series of their own choices.

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VelkaMorava 5y ago
aCtUaLlY... dude be a bit empathetic. Some people might have relatives they have to take care of, and are unwilling to downgrade their job by multiple levels, hence the commute. Others might have children with friends in local school - sure, they can move, but it's the last resort. I sincerely hate you libertariantsy types. Your attitude works when you are 25-30 with no kids and distant family. And you know what fascinates me? Having remote/in office work be optional, this doesn't impact you in any way. I can happily live without commute, you can go to office for all I care.
- bequanna 5y ago
  > I sincerely hate you libertariantsy types Huh. I didn't realize it was a libertarian view that one should be responsible for outcomes that are obviously the result of decisions they made (and still make). > I can happily live without commute, you can go to office for all I care. Right. A choice that each of us can individually make. I've made mine and you make yours. I am simply stating that one should take personal responsibility. In general, your employer shouldn't/doesn't care how long you have to commute to work. Why? Because you are replaceable with someone who doesn't have this problem or won't whine about it. Stop externalizing blame. Your quality of life will increase greatly once you stop expecting other people to solve problems you create and just solve them yourself. > dude be a bit empathetic. Empathy for what, exactly? OP can get a job closer to their home OR move closer to their job OR find a remote only job. It isn't their employer's responsibility to endlessly subsidize and cater to the choices of their employees. Regarding your other assumptions: I am outside of the age group you mention and have children + distant family.
  - Ericson2314 5y ago
    US has bad commutes because of our terrible land use. So yes people should let go of homeownership fantasies, but also we simply cannot fix land use with individual actions alone.
ryandrake 5y ago
> Actually, the length of your commute is the result of where you choose to live and where you choose to work. At least in the Bay Area, the minimum length of one's commute is a function of how much money you make, and how small a shoebox you're willing to live in. Most of the peninsula and south bay are completely priced out for me, since I'm not a SVP or venture capital partner making $2M/year. I live about as close as I can comfortably afford, which means about 2.5 hours each way, by way of three interstate highways. If I made more, I'd love to "choose" to live closer to work.
- ghaff 5y ago
  I honestly can't imagine the circumstances that would make me think 2.5 hours each way per day was an acceptable commute given presumed alternatives to make some sort of living. I did about 90 minutes each way ~half-time for a bit over a year and that wouldn't have been workable long-term.
mickotron 5y ago
Not everyone can afford to live where all the jobs are. Not all of us are on inflated SV wages. Some of us put up with 2-3h commute round trip time a day for many years cause it was the only way. Now with remote, that commute is not necessary. Of course people will choose not to do the hellish commute, if they have the choice.
benhurmarcel 5y ago
Not everyone has a choice of employers that are located in a nice part of town. I work in a mechanical industry, so employers are always located in some ugly industrial zone. And no, I’m not living there, and neither would you.

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VelkaMorava 5y ago

aCtUaLlY... dude be a bit empathetic. Some people might have relatives they have to take care of, and are unwilling to downgrade their job by multiple levels, hence the commute. Others might have children with friends in local school - sure, they can move, but it's the last resort. I sincerely hate you libertariantsy types. Your attitude works when you are 25-30 with no kids and distant family. And you know what fascinates me? Having remote/in office work be optional, this doesn't impact you in any way. I can happily live without commute, you can go to office for all I care.

bequanna 5y ago
> I sincerely hate you libertariantsy types Huh. I didn't realize it was a libertarian view that one should be responsible for outcomes that are obviously the result of decisions they made (and still make). > I can happily live without commute, you can go to office for all I care. Right. A choice that each of us can individually make. I've made mine and you make yours. I am simply stating that one should take personal responsibility. In general, your employer shouldn't/doesn't care how long you have to commute to work. Why? Because you are replaceable with someone who doesn't have this problem or won't whine about it. Stop externalizing blame. Your quality of life will increase greatly once you stop expecting other people to solve problems you create and just solve them yourself. > dude be a bit empathetic. Empathy for what, exactly? OP can get a job closer to their home OR move closer to their job OR find a remote only job. It isn't their employer's responsibility to endlessly subsidize and cater to the choices of their employees. Regarding your other assumptions: I am outside of the age group you mention and have children + distant family.
- Ericson2314 5y ago
  US has bad commutes because of our terrible land use. So yes people should let go of homeownership fantasies, but also we simply cannot fix land use with individual actions alone.

ryandrake 5y ago

> Actually, the length of your commute is the result of where you choose to live and where you choose to work. At least in the Bay Area, the minimum length of one's commute is a function of how much money you make, and how small a shoebox you're willing to live in. Most of the peninsula and south bay are completely priced out for me, since I'm not a SVP or venture capital partner making $2M/year. I live about as close as I can comfortably afford, which means about 2.5 hours each way, by way of three interstate highways. If I made more, I'd love to "choose" to live closer to work.

ghaff 5y ago
I honestly can't imagine the circumstances that would make me think 2.5 hours each way per day was an acceptable commute given presumed alternatives to make some sort of living. I did about 90 minutes each way ~half-time for a bit over a year and that wouldn't have been workable long-term.

mickotron 5y ago

Not everyone can afford to live where all the jobs are. Not all of us are on inflated SV wages. Some of us put up with 2-3h commute round trip time a day for many years cause it was the only way. Now with remote, that commute is not necessary. Of course people will choose not to do the hellish commute, if they have the choice.

benhurmarcel 5y ago

Not everyone has a choice of employers that are located in a nice part of town. I work in a mechanical industry, so employers are always located in some ugly industrial zone. And no, I’m not living there, and neither would you.