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Well you have two options. Either 1) You force everyone to get tested for Covid. Then vaccinate everyone who tests negative. 2) Or you just vaccinate everyone

Well you have two options. Either 1) You force everyone to get tested for Covid. Then vaccinate everyone who tests negative. 2) Or you just vaccinate everyone knowing those that had it will just end up with stronger immunity. Seems like 2 is the cheapest most straightforward option.

nradov 5y ago
Those aren't the only options. It would be unethical to force testing on everyone.
- Gibbon1 5y ago
  You can't trust people to self report having covid. Because a very high percentage will lie about it. Same as rules that allow vaccinated people to not wear masks. Unvaccinate people will up and lie about being vaccinated.
- bserge 5y ago
  It's unethical to withhold mental health medication, too, but strangely no one gives a fuck about that.
- retrac 5y ago
  We don't need to. People could be given the option of testing, or of going into isolation for the incubation period. Several countries had great effect from ordering a lockdown and testing the entire population over a day or two, releasing those who are negative from lockdown, and repeating this process multiple times in badly affected areas. Slovakia did this and it seems to have been extremely effective, though obviously not enough to eradicate it: https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4761 https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4761
  - nradov 5y ago
    Irrelevant. What appeared to work temporarily in Slovakia last year has no bearing on management of the more contagious Delta variant. Community transmission in most countries is so widespread now that there's simply no practical way to isolate so many people. It's just too late for that to work.
    - retrac 5y ago
      I'm not in one of those countries. I'm in Canada and the medium-sized city I live in has a dozen cases a day, which is an increase over the last few months. The large majority have not contracted it here yet. We continue to use mass testing and partial restrictions to control the rates, along with vaccination. I have no idea if this is a winning proposition in the long run especially with the new contagious variants. But it does seem to work in terms of case numbers so far.

nradov 5y ago

Those aren't the only options. It would be unethical to force testing on everyone.

Gibbon1 5y ago
You can't trust people to self report having covid. Because a very high percentage will lie about it. Same as rules that allow vaccinated people to not wear masks. Unvaccinate people will up and lie about being vaccinated.
bserge 5y ago
It's unethical to withhold mental health medication, too, but strangely no one gives a fuck about that.
retrac 5y ago
We don't need to. People could be given the option of testing, or of going into isolation for the incubation period. Several countries had great effect from ordering a lockdown and testing the entire population over a day or two, releasing those who are negative from lockdown, and repeating this process multiple times in badly affected areas. Slovakia did this and it seems to have been extremely effective, though obviously not enough to eradicate it: https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4761 https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4761
- nradov 5y ago
  Irrelevant. What appeared to work temporarily in Slovakia last year has no bearing on management of the more contagious Delta variant. Community transmission in most countries is so widespread now that there's simply no practical way to isolate so many people. It's just too late for that to work.
  - retrac 5y ago
    I'm not in one of those countries. I'm in Canada and the medium-sized city I live in has a dozen cases a day, which is an increase over the last few months. The large majority have not contracted it here yet. We continue to use mass testing and partial restrictions to control the rates, along with vaccination. I have no idea if this is a winning proposition in the long run especially with the new contagious variants. But it does seem to work in terms of case numbers so far.