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If you ever get around Sinsheim in Germany I would highly recommend a visit to the Sinsheim technology museum they have both a Tupolev [0] and a Concorde on top

by erk__ 5y ago

If you ever get around Sinsheim in Germany I would highly recommend a visit to the Sinsheim technology museum they have both a Tupolev [0] and a Concorde on top of their roof together with a lot of other interesting exhibitions. [0]: https://sinsheim.technik-museum.de/en/tupolev-tu-144 https://sinsheim.technik-museum.de/en/tupolev-tu-144

Tomte 5y ago
And you can go inside both!
- MaxBarraclough 5y ago
  How? They're on the roof. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/16/Concorde_und_Tu-144_Auto-_und_Technikmuseum_Sinsheim.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/16/Concorde... edit There's a metal staircase: https://old.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/btze9j/my_picture_of_the_great_concorde_at_sinsheim/ https://old.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/btze9j/my_picture...
  - Kognito 5y ago
    The magic of.. stairs?
    - MaxBarraclough 5y ago
      The HackerNews guidelines are quite clear regarding snark. The stairs aren't easy to make out from that photo. Here's another photo that shows the metal staircase: https://old.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/btze9j/my_picture_of_the_great_concorde_at_sinsheim/ https://old.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/btze9j/my_picture...
      - heavenlyblue 5y ago
        Unfortunately your initial comment comes off as a snark. On top of that you took your time to actually find a photo supporting your argument but didn’t bother searching for a photo of the entrance to the planes?
        MaxBarraclough 5y ago
        > On top of that you took your time to actually find a photo supporting your argument I did not. Please assume good faith. That image was linked by someone else in the thread. [0] Why would I deliberately seek out a photo that doesn't clearly show the staircase, only to then edit my comment to link to another image that does? > your initial comment comes off as a snark I don't know how I could have phrased the question to be any more neutral. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28336561 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28336561
  - erk__ 5y ago
    The sister museum in speyer have a full 747 on some stilts https://www.flickr.com/photos/meteorry/49653977743 https://www.flickr.com/photos/meteorry/49653977743
    - techdragon 5y ago
      Ok wow. That’s some amazing effort to find room for not just the exhibit but to make it accessible to the visitors! These two German museums just jumped out of no where into the top ten of my science/engineering museum bucket list.
    - 7kay 5y ago
      Speyer has the Buran as well https://speyer.technik-museum.de/en/spaceshuttle-buran https://speyer.technik-museum.de/en/spaceshuttle-buran
  - smoyer 5y ago
    I always love the extra landing gear added to the Concorde to avoid tail strikes on rotation - sometimes "patches" are the correct solution to infrequent problems!
    - chrisseaton 5y ago
      I don’t think they’re a patch - they were part of the original design.
doctor_eval 5y ago
There used to be a tour of the Airbus factory in Toulouse, where they made A380s, and at the end of the tour we took a bus across the tarmac and were able to walk around and go inside a Concorde. It was amazing. It is a much bigger plane on the outside than you might think. That wing is huge.
- notanote 5y ago
  The Airbus factory has had a museum nearby since 2015, Aeroscopia [1]. It hosts two Concordes, among others (like the Super Guppy [2]). It has a pre-production Concorde (F-WTSB), used for test flights, and an Air France one (F-BVFC). It’s worth a visit for any aviation enthusiast. You used to be able to go inside the test flight one, but it’s a cramped space, so things might be different while covid regulations are in force. [1] https://www.toulouse-visit.com/aeroscopia-museum https://www.toulouse-visit.com/aeroscopia-museum [2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aero_Spacelines_Super_Guppy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aero_Spacelines_Super_Guppy
- seanmcdirmid 5y ago
  If you like that, you should definitely go to the Dayton Ohio AF museum where they have a Valkyrie. You can’t go inside it, unfortunately.
- bobthepanda 5y ago
  part of the reason for the Concorde's decline was the fairly tight cabin, which was likened by some to be almost bus-like. With the advent of lie-flat business class seats in the late 90s and early 2000s, Concorde became much less appealing since one could just fly a redeye to London and have a comfortable sleep than be cramped for a shorter period of time.
  - jeffrallen 5y ago
    Go to Seattle's aviation museum and see for yourself. I'd call it "swanky bus", but yes, buslike.
  - doctor_eval 5y ago
hodgesrm 5y ago
You can also see a Tu-144 in Zhukovsky, a city about an hour by train from Moscow. [1] A lot of Soviet aviation development happened there. [1] http://www.rusaviainsider.com/zhukovsky-pays-tribute-venerable-tu-144-supersonic-airliner/ http://www.rusaviainsider.com/zhukovsky-pays-tribute-venerab...
harywilke 5y ago
Lots of people have been having fun in the parking lot. https://www.google.com/maps/place/Technik+Museum+Sinsheim/@49.2389946,8.8981662,258m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x9fb2eb226944dd63!8m2!3d49.238784!4d8.8972426 https://www.google.com/maps/place/Technik+Museum+Sinsheim/@4...

by erk__ 5y ago

Tomte 5y ago

And you can go inside both!

MaxBarraclough 5y ago
How? They're on the roof. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/16/Concorde_und_Tu-144_Auto-_und_Technikmuseum_Sinsheim.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/16/Concorde... edit There's a metal staircase: https://old.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/btze9j/my_picture_of_the_great_concorde_at_sinsheim/ https://old.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/btze9j/my_picture...
- Kognito 5y ago
  The magic of.. stairs?
  - MaxBarraclough 5y ago
    The HackerNews guidelines are quite clear regarding snark. The stairs aren't easy to make out from that photo. Here's another photo that shows the metal staircase: https://old.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/btze9j/my_picture_of_the_great_concorde_at_sinsheim/ https://old.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/btze9j/my_picture...
    - heavenlyblue 5y ago
      Unfortunately your initial comment comes off as a snark. On top of that you took your time to actually find a photo supporting your argument but didn’t bother searching for a photo of the entrance to the planes?
      - MaxBarraclough 5y ago
        > On top of that you took your time to actually find a photo supporting your argument I did not. Please assume good faith. That image was linked by someone else in the thread. [0] Why would I deliberately seek out a photo that doesn't clearly show the staircase, only to then edit my comment to link to another image that does? > your initial comment comes off as a snark I don't know how I could have phrased the question to be any more neutral. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28336561 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28336561
- erk__ 5y ago
  The sister museum in speyer have a full 747 on some stilts https://www.flickr.com/photos/meteorry/49653977743 https://www.flickr.com/photos/meteorry/49653977743
  - techdragon 5y ago
    Ok wow. That’s some amazing effort to find room for not just the exhibit but to make it accessible to the visitors! These two German museums just jumped out of no where into the top ten of my science/engineering museum bucket list.
  - 7kay 5y ago
    Speyer has the Buran as well https://speyer.technik-museum.de/en/spaceshuttle-buran https://speyer.technik-museum.de/en/spaceshuttle-buran
- smoyer 5y ago
  I always love the extra landing gear added to the Concorde to avoid tail strikes on rotation - sometimes "patches" are the correct solution to infrequent problems!
  - chrisseaton 5y ago
    I don’t think they’re a patch - they were part of the original design.

doctor_eval 5y ago

There used to be a tour of the Airbus factory in Toulouse, where they made A380s, and at the end of the tour we took a bus across the tarmac and were able to walk around and go inside a Concorde. It was amazing. It is a much bigger plane on the outside than you might think. That wing is huge.

notanote 5y ago
The Airbus factory has had a museum nearby since 2015, Aeroscopia [1]. It hosts two Concordes, among others (like the Super Guppy [2]). It has a pre-production Concorde (F-WTSB), used for test flights, and an Air France one (F-BVFC). It’s worth a visit for any aviation enthusiast. You used to be able to go inside the test flight one, but it’s a cramped space, so things might be different while covid regulations are in force. [1] https://www.toulouse-visit.com/aeroscopia-museum https://www.toulouse-visit.com/aeroscopia-museum [2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aero_Spacelines_Super_Guppy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aero_Spacelines_Super_Guppy
seanmcdirmid 5y ago
If you like that, you should definitely go to the Dayton Ohio AF museum where they have a Valkyrie. You can’t go inside it, unfortunately.
bobthepanda 5y ago
part of the reason for the Concorde's decline was the fairly tight cabin, which was likened by some to be almost bus-like. With the advent of lie-flat business class seats in the late 90s and early 2000s, Concorde became much less appealing since one could just fly a redeye to London and have a comfortable sleep than be cramped for a shorter period of time.
- jeffrallen 5y ago
  Go to Seattle's aviation museum and see for yourself. I'd call it "swanky bus", but yes, buslike.
- doctor_eval 5y ago

hodgesrm 5y ago

You can also see a Tu-144 in Zhukovsky, a city about an hour by train from Moscow. [1] A lot of Soviet aviation development happened there. [1] http://www.rusaviainsider.com/zhukovsky-pays-tribute-venerable-tu-144-supersonic-airliner/ http://www.rusaviainsider.com/zhukovsky-pays-tribute-venerab...

harywilke 5y ago

Lots of people have been having fun in the parking lot. https://www.google.com/maps/place/Technik+Museum+Sinsheim/@49.2389946,8.8981662,258m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x9fb2eb226944dd63!8m2!3d49.238784!4d8.8972426 https://www.google.com/maps/place/Technik+Museum+Sinsheim/@4...