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I don't know. But it would be wrong to assume that it is impossible, and thus to ignore any evidence that might say otherwise. How many other sex scandals do

I don't know. But it would be wrong to assume that it is impossible, and thus to ignore any evidence that might say otherwise. How many other sex scandals do you think have occured in high offices, and were never discovered by the public? I'm sure there are some that weren't discovered until much later: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_political_scandals_in_the_United_States http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_political_scand... And additionally, there have been examples of the US military keeping large secrets for decades. One example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident So why does it seem impossible that there is more to the story about 9/11 and Osama bin Laden than is being reported by the US gov? (especially when there is evidence which raises unanswered questions or pokes holes in the official stories)

nate_meurer 15y ago
Not impossible, I'll grant you that. It's also possible that the controlled demolition of the World Trade Center was the work of aliens. There is some evidence that aliens have infiltrated the U.S. government, and this would go a long way toward explaining why the NIST report on the WTC collapse -- clearly manipulated -- doesn't even mention the possibility of controlled demolition, let alone the involvement of extra-terrestrials. Have you looked into this possibility at all?
- joejohnson 15y ago
  I personally haven't, and I don't think anyone has because there isn't evidence that points to extra-terrestrials. There is evidence that points toward controlled demolition. The real problem with discussions like this is that minority views are quickly dismissed on the basis of "conspiracy theories". It is impossible to have a real debate about these topics. But it is still frustrating to see so many people actively ignoring facts that are contrary to their pre-concieved views.
  - nate_meurer 15y ago
    Ok, now I know what you're up to. You can't fool me by pretending to be "objective". Listen up, you and the rest of Stanley Jones' cabal can't suppress the truth forever. Read this open letter to your fearless leader, and you'll see that your "secrets" are already out: http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/OpenLetterToJones.html http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/OpenLetterToJones.html That's right. We already know. And where exactly do you think the U.S got the advanced directed-energy weapons that you would like us to believe don't exist? That's right. It all starts at Roswell, '57. Shit, for all I know, you're one of them.
    - joejohnson 15y ago
      You are trying to strawman my argument. Aliens are ridiculous; that has nothing to do with what I'm saying. There are rational questions posed by people you are labeling as conspiracy theorists. You are trying to discredit them by exaggerating these claims. Again, there is some evidence of a cover up; there is no evidence of alien involvement. Your arguments are puerile and a distraction from what we are talking about.
      - nate_meurer 15y ago
        Did you not even read the damn letter I posted? Don't talk to me until you've read that letter. And then go do some research, and tell me how the hell the WTC could have been brought down without the assistance of the high-powered directed-energy weapons that WE ALREADY KNOW EXIST IN LOW_EARTH ORBIT. I'd love to hear your theories, since you say you're so "open-minded". And don't give me any of that bullshit about "high-energetic thermitic devices". You and I both know that's a crap theory. And don't bother telling me that I'm "ridiculous", since I've already heard it a hundred times from the other Jones cohorts who only want their version of the "truth" to be told. READ THE DAMN LETTER! Then again, if you really are one of "Doctor" Stanley's crew, don't bother even responding to me.
        joejohnson 15y ago
        I read the letter you linked to. I'm very confused what you are trying to say to me. Who is Stanley? I can't fully discern what you are saying about this letter; it sounds like there is some in-fighting between the leaders of a website that was publishing articles about 911 demolition theories. What does this have to do with our debate? I don't know if you are serious about this directed-energy weapon. I think there is more credibility to the thermate theory, but I don't really know the details of space-based weapons. It sounds like science fiction. Maybe I am just wasting my time responding to this. In this discussion I was merely trying to say that there are valid questions that have been raised about the official 9/11 story. Why are people so inclined to dismiss any such qeustioning as ludicrous?
joezydeco 15y ago
And, 50 years ago, how many normal US citizens knew FDR had polio and was in a wheelchair? It's 2011. Nothing exists unless it's on Facebook. The media has changed everything.

nate_meurer 15y ago

Not impossible, I'll grant you that. It's also possible that the controlled demolition of the World Trade Center was the work of aliens. There is some evidence that aliens have infiltrated the U.S. government, and this would go a long way toward explaining why the NIST report on the WTC collapse -- clearly manipulated -- doesn't even mention the possibility of controlled demolition, let alone the involvement of extra-terrestrials. Have you looked into this possibility at all?

joejohnson 15y ago
I personally haven't, and I don't think anyone has because there isn't evidence that points to extra-terrestrials. There is evidence that points toward controlled demolition. The real problem with discussions like this is that minority views are quickly dismissed on the basis of "conspiracy theories". It is impossible to have a real debate about these topics. But it is still frustrating to see so many people actively ignoring facts that are contrary to their pre-concieved views.
- nate_meurer 15y ago
  Ok, now I know what you're up to. You can't fool me by pretending to be "objective". Listen up, you and the rest of Stanley Jones' cabal can't suppress the truth forever. Read this open letter to your fearless leader, and you'll see that your "secrets" are already out: http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/OpenLetterToJones.html http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/OpenLetterToJones.html That's right. We already know. And where exactly do you think the U.S got the advanced directed-energy weapons that you would like us to believe don't exist? That's right. It all starts at Roswell, '57. Shit, for all I know, you're one of them.
  - joejohnson 15y ago
    You are trying to strawman my argument. Aliens are ridiculous; that has nothing to do with what I'm saying. There are rational questions posed by people you are labeling as conspiracy theorists. You are trying to discredit them by exaggerating these claims. Again, there is some evidence of a cover up; there is no evidence of alien involvement. Your arguments are puerile and a distraction from what we are talking about.
    - nate_meurer 15y ago
      Did you not even read the damn letter I posted? Don't talk to me until you've read that letter. And then go do some research, and tell me how the hell the WTC could have been brought down without the assistance of the high-powered directed-energy weapons that WE ALREADY KNOW EXIST IN LOW_EARTH ORBIT. I'd love to hear your theories, since you say you're so "open-minded". And don't give me any of that bullshit about "high-energetic thermitic devices". You and I both know that's a crap theory. And don't bother telling me that I'm "ridiculous", since I've already heard it a hundred times from the other Jones cohorts who only want their version of the "truth" to be told. READ THE DAMN LETTER! Then again, if you really are one of "Doctor" Stanley's crew, don't bother even responding to me.
      - joejohnson 15y ago
        I read the letter you linked to. I'm very confused what you are trying to say to me. Who is Stanley? I can't fully discern what you are saying about this letter; it sounds like there is some in-fighting between the leaders of a website that was publishing articles about 911 demolition theories. What does this have to do with our debate? I don't know if you are serious about this directed-energy weapon. I think there is more credibility to the thermate theory, but I don't really know the details of space-based weapons. It sounds like science fiction. Maybe I am just wasting my time responding to this. In this discussion I was merely trying to say that there are valid questions that have been raised about the official 9/11 story. Why are people so inclined to dismiss any such qeustioning as ludicrous?

joezydeco 15y ago

And, 50 years ago, how many normal US citizens knew FDR had polio and was in a wheelchair? It's 2011. Nothing exists unless it's on Facebook. The media has changed everything.