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I have not tried any; but I'just curious -- if you write your epiphanies down do they hold their values or turn into gobbledygook when you sober up?

by tra3 5y ago

paulluuk 5y ago
I've tried mushrooms (both dried and natural) and LSD. In my case, "epiphanies" were basically the same as what you get when you smoke a lot of pot or drink a lot of beer: "the world is in 3d", "time is only a construct", "everything in the universe is connected", "our bodies can't physically touch due to the space between atoms", etc. I've written them down in journals, but it's all "gobbledygook" as you mention.
- rfd4sgmk8u 5y ago
  They may seem trite, but these are fundamental truths that 98% of the population will never know. You remember the feelings of subjective profound realization. This is what is important.
azinman2 5y ago
I tried MDMA many years ago. It gave me a different perspective of the world: one of wonder and extreme beauty. I don't carry it with me in daily life, but it's very easy for me to turn that perspective on at will, and at times when I come across extreme ugliness or extreme beauty, I do turn on that perspective. It's almost a spiritual thing, where you see with amazement that this world even exists as organized chaos despite all the random collisions of atoms in the universe. Like most things with the mind, it's what you put into it. I wouldn't expect a magic pill to take that just fixes everything. I found this part of the article quite shocking: > "I walked out of that office feeling hopelessly depressed," he said. "That was a real turning point. I realized for the first time that, if I was going to overcome my depression, it would have to be self-driven." Uhh, ya it's going to have to be self-driven. If you're expecting to just take a pill and do no actual work yourself, then you're totally unrealistic about taking control of your own mind and life. This goes for any area of life, weight, depression, happiness, etc. That culture/pharma/whomever sells this idea of an easy out to Americans is quite sad.

I have not tried any; but I'just curious -- if you write your epiphanies down do they hold their values or turn into gobbledygook when you sober up?

by tra3 5y ago

I have not tried any; but I'just curious -- if you write your epiphanies down do they hold their values or turn into gobbledygook when you sober up?

paulluuk 5y ago

I've tried mushrooms (both dried and natural) and LSD. In my case, "epiphanies" were basically the same as what you get when you smoke a lot of pot or drink a lot of beer: "the world is in 3d", "time is only a construct", "everything in the universe is connected", "our bodies can't physically touch due to the space between atoms", etc. I've written them down in journals, but it's all "gobbledygook" as you mention.

rfd4sgmk8u 5y ago
They may seem trite, but these are fundamental truths that 98% of the population will never know. You remember the feelings of subjective profound realization. This is what is important.

azinman2 5y ago

I tried MDMA many years ago. It gave me a different perspective of the world: one of wonder and extreme beauty. I don't carry it with me in daily life, but it's very easy for me to turn that perspective on at will, and at times when I come across extreme ugliness or extreme beauty, I do turn on that perspective. It's almost a spiritual thing, where you see with amazement that this world even exists as organized chaos despite all the random collisions of atoms in the universe. Like most things with the mind, it's what you put into it. I wouldn't expect a magic pill to take that just fixes everything. I found this part of the article quite shocking: > "I walked out of that office feeling hopelessly depressed," he said. "That was a real turning point. I realized for the first time that, if I was going to overcome my depression, it would have to be self-driven." Uhh, ya it's going to have to be self-driven. If you're expecting to just take a pill and do no actual work yourself, then you're totally unrealistic about taking control of your own mind and life. This goes for any area of life, weight, depression, happiness, etc. That culture/pharma/whomever sells this idea of an easy out to Americans is quite sad.