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We still create extremist personas, that don’t exist in real life. I know in France this tactic is used very often to trigger a demonstration of “the good guys”

We still create extremist personas, that don’t exist in real life. I know in France this tactic is used very often to trigger a demonstration of “the good guys”. When you interview the opponents, they’re 1 for 10.000 (=insignificant). For example with feminism, when asked precise questions, you notice they are afraid of people that don’t exist (meanwhile the actual rapists are still free to roam).

bobthechef 5y ago
The social changes we're seeing in the West, apart from aligning with the unfolding decadent logic of liberalism, are also supported by powerful groups, some of them government backed. > For example with feminism, when asked precise questions, you notice they are afraid of people that don’t exist Well, you will always find a couple freaks of every stripe somewhere. The job of any government looking to create fear is to give them disproportionate attention. Some may even fund the promotion of said freakishness because it either generates more panic, because it functions as a wedge for producing desired social changes that also grant more power to the government, etc. Pick your favorite subversive ideology today or mass phenomenon weakening moral norms and rights and you will find powerful backers. Control over information flow permits the impression that everyone is behind this ideology which causes people to conform for fear of sticking out. This normalizes the ideology, at least in the performative sense.
marcosdumay 5y ago
Well, to put it in perspective, I'm talking about trying to explode a bomb in a full stadium just to claim communists planted it. But sure, characterizing your enemy as something other than humane is a common thing in propaganda.
- eecc 5y ago
  Like Italy in the '70s? (Piazza Fontana, Piazza della Loggia, Bologna Station bombing, Italicus train...)
  - frozenlettuce 5y ago
    He's probably talking about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riocentro_attack https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riocentro_attack the bomb exploded on the lap of one of perpetrators before the attack could take place

bobthechef 5y ago

The social changes we're seeing in the West, apart from aligning with the unfolding decadent logic of liberalism, are also supported by powerful groups, some of them government backed. > For example with feminism, when asked precise questions, you notice they are afraid of people that don’t exist Well, you will always find a couple freaks of every stripe somewhere. The job of any government looking to create fear is to give them disproportionate attention. Some may even fund the promotion of said freakishness because it either generates more panic, because it functions as a wedge for producing desired social changes that also grant more power to the government, etc. Pick your favorite subversive ideology today or mass phenomenon weakening moral norms and rights and you will find powerful backers. Control over information flow permits the impression that everyone is behind this ideology which causes people to conform for fear of sticking out. This normalizes the ideology, at least in the performative sense.

marcosdumay 5y ago

Well, to put it in perspective, I'm talking about trying to explode a bomb in a full stadium just to claim communists planted it. But sure, characterizing your enemy as something other than humane is a common thing in propaganda.

eecc 5y ago
Like Italy in the '70s? (Piazza Fontana, Piazza della Loggia, Bologna Station bombing, Italicus train...)
- frozenlettuce 5y ago
  He's probably talking about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riocentro_attack https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riocentro_attack the bomb exploded on the lap of one of perpetrators before the attack could take place