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> There’s no tomato sauce atop the dough, no mozzarella, no onion. It’s just crushed tomato with salt, oregano, and olive oil. Looks at picture to make sure he

> There’s no tomato sauce atop the dough, no mozzarella, no onion. It’s just crushed tomato with salt, oregano, and olive oil. Looks at picture to make sure he's not misunderstanding, sees that, no, it's that What does the author think pizza sauce usually is?

shepherdjerred 5y ago
the separate ingredients are quite different from them as a sauce. you'd never call a bowl of flour, water, salt, and yeast "pizza dough".
- handrous 5y ago
  Well, 1) that sure looks like a tomato sauce on top of that bread, and 2) all you do to turn crushed tomato + salt + oregano into pizza sauce is stir slightly. [EDIT] I'm not trying to be a dick about this, I was just really surprised to read that description, coupled with the photo above it. "no tomato sauce" goes on to describe its toppings as exactly what one might mix to get a pizza sauce
  - skrtskrt 5y ago
    Tomato sauce also generally cooked down for hours as well, which again makes it taste way different than the ingredients being baked on fresh as-is. EDIT: see my comment on the grandparent and stop being so pedantic
    - handrous 5y ago
      You don't need to (pre-)cook pizza sauce, though. The thing that struck me was this article about pizza claiming that the exact things you put in pizza sauce, being practically the only things on a piece of flatbread that the article is claiming counts as a style of pizza, is compatible with the article's claim that it doesn't have tomato sauce on it. I mean, either most pizza doesn't feature tomato sauce (because pizza sauce doesn't count, for some reason), in which case why mention it, or otherwise I'm pretty sure this does too.
    - dfxm12 5y ago
      "Tomato sauce" is a very ambiguous term, and pizza sauces are not necessarily cooked. Just open a can of crushed tomatoes (or crush them yourself) and stir in some salt, olive oil and whatever other seasonings you want (garlic, oregano, etc.). That is pizza sauce. That's what it looks like in the picture being talked about.
- p4bl0 5y ago
  Yes because it's missing olive oil ^^.
skrtskrt 5y ago
Everyone here is trying to be way too literal to "gotcha" about what sauce is. I am Italian, and you need to define these things way more off feel and appearance than some scientific definition of "sauce" that you just made up. Regardless of whether "pizza sauce" is cooked or not, you look at and you know it's sauce. It's near-puree consistency, with all the ingredients having been blended together, you could spread it easily with a spoon. Look at that picture, those are clearly crushed tomatoes that were very recently a full tomato, not like a canned "crushed tomato" you would get in a store that's already like 95% of the way to sauce consistency. You could not spread those around evenly or easily with a spoon. It's not a sauce. It's crushed tomatoes, with salt, oregano, and olive oil. If you want to "gotcha" go with the fact that the vast majority of these would not be called "pizzas" by anyone in Italy - as mentioned by @elrond89. Again by feel - you look at a big piece of woven/folded bread with some other ingredients - does it feel like pizza to you? Probably not. Most of those would be called "focaccias" or similar.
- handrous 5y ago
  Looks similar to a standard, default-toppings New Haven style pizza, to me, which also features a coarse-crushed-tomato sauce and not much else. In either case I think you point at one and tell the average person on the street—especially among an English-speaking audience, as I suppose this article is aimed at—"look, this pizza has no sauce" and they'll look at you funny and think you're playing some kind of joke on them, because it sure looks like it only has sauce. Listing the ingredients the way the article does just makes that seem to be even more true, since it's practically a recipe for pizza sauce.
  - skrtskrt 5y ago
    For the second time on this thread, its because it’s not blended up into sauce! The ingredients are placed on separately and the consistency is not that of sauce! Any more than a bag of sugar next to a carton of eggs is a cake batter! > practically a recipe for pizza sauce You're saying it yourself but not absorbing it. The ingredients themselves do not make a final product, in the same way that a fajita plate is not a burrito which is not a quesadilla.

shepherdjerred 5y ago

the separate ingredients are quite different from them as a sauce. you'd never call a bowl of flour, water, salt, and yeast "pizza dough".

handrous 5y ago
Well, 1) that sure looks like a tomato sauce on top of that bread, and 2) all you do to turn crushed tomato + salt + oregano into pizza sauce is stir slightly. [EDIT] I'm not trying to be a dick about this, I was just really surprised to read that description, coupled with the photo above it. "no tomato sauce" goes on to describe its toppings as exactly what one might mix to get a pizza sauce
- skrtskrt 5y ago
  Tomato sauce also generally cooked down for hours as well, which again makes it taste way different than the ingredients being baked on fresh as-is. EDIT: see my comment on the grandparent and stop being so pedantic
  - handrous 5y ago
    You don't need to (pre-)cook pizza sauce, though. The thing that struck me was this article about pizza claiming that the exact things you put in pizza sauce, being practically the only things on a piece of flatbread that the article is claiming counts as a style of pizza, is compatible with the article's claim that it doesn't have tomato sauce on it. I mean, either most pizza doesn't feature tomato sauce (because pizza sauce doesn't count, for some reason), in which case why mention it, or otherwise I'm pretty sure this does too.
  - dfxm12 5y ago
    "Tomato sauce" is a very ambiguous term, and pizza sauces are not necessarily cooked. Just open a can of crushed tomatoes (or crush them yourself) and stir in some salt, olive oil and whatever other seasonings you want (garlic, oregano, etc.). That is pizza sauce. That's what it looks like in the picture being talked about.
p4bl0 5y ago
Yes because it's missing olive oil ^^.

skrtskrt 5y ago

Everyone here is trying to be way too literal to "gotcha" about what sauce is. I am Italian, and you need to define these things way more off feel and appearance than some scientific definition of "sauce" that you just made up. Regardless of whether "pizza sauce" is cooked or not, you look at and you know it's sauce. It's near-puree consistency, with all the ingredients having been blended together, you could spread it easily with a spoon. Look at that picture, those are clearly crushed tomatoes that were very recently a full tomato, not like a canned "crushed tomato" you would get in a store that's already like 95% of the way to sauce consistency. You could not spread those around evenly or easily with a spoon. It's not a sauce. It's crushed tomatoes, with salt, oregano, and olive oil. If you want to "gotcha" go with the fact that the vast majority of these would not be called "pizzas" by anyone in Italy - as mentioned by @elrond89. Again by feel - you look at a big piece of woven/folded bread with some other ingredients - does it feel like pizza to you? Probably not. Most of those would be called "focaccias" or similar.

handrous 5y ago
Looks similar to a standard, default-toppings New Haven style pizza, to me, which also features a coarse-crushed-tomato sauce and not much else. In either case I think you point at one and tell the average person on the street—especially among an English-speaking audience, as I suppose this article is aimed at—"look, this pizza has no sauce" and they'll look at you funny and think you're playing some kind of joke on them, because it sure looks like it only has sauce. Listing the ingredients the way the article does just makes that seem to be even more true, since it's practically a recipe for pizza sauce.
- skrtskrt 5y ago
  For the second time on this thread, its because it’s not blended up into sauce! The ingredients are placed on separately and the consistency is not that of sauce! Any more than a bag of sugar next to a carton of eggs is a cake batter! > practically a recipe for pizza sauce You're saying it yourself but not absorbing it. The ingredients themselves do not make a final product, in the same way that a fajita plate is not a burrito which is not a quesadilla.