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What you are proposing is an authoritarian regime that can control what software is permitted to be run. This is madness, and will doom humanity. There is a re

What you are proposing is an authoritarian regime that can control what software is permitted to be run. This is madness, and will doom humanity. There is a reason that free speech is such a critical component of free societies.

yoavm 5y ago
You don't have to control what software is permitted to run: you can just ban changing USD to Bitcoin and vice versa. Stop the exchanges. Most people aren't mining their own coins anyway.
- rfd4sgmk8u 5y ago
  You can ban a lot of things in life. Theft. Drugs. Crime in general. You may not understand how the OTC market works in jurisdictions like China that do indeed ban cryptocurrency exchanges and prevent fiat<->cryptocurrency exchanges. A fist full of RMB can be swapped for USDT, which can be swapped for BTC from OTC brokers. What you are proposing can only be stopped by breaking computers, breaking arms/legs and breaking economies. Violence is never the solution to problems.
  - yoavm 5y ago
    I never suggested that it will completely erase cryptocurrencies. I do think that it will help making it less popular, which would be great. I sure think that while making theft illegal didn't stop it, it reduced the number of theft cases.
monocasa 5y ago
We already live in a world where the government controls what software can run, and have been for at least 20 years.
- rfd4sgmk8u 5y ago
  Yes, in authoritarian regimes. Which is something we need to resist in the free world. Can you give an example of software (not data...) that is illegal to run in the US?
  - monocasa 5y ago
    Tools for circumvention of copyright. > (2) No person shall manufacture, import, offer to the public, provide, or otherwise traffic in any technology, product, service, device, component, or part thereof, that— > (A) is primarily designed or produced for the purpose of circumventing a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title; > (B) has only limited commercially significant purpose or use other than to circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title; or > (C) is marketed by that person or another acting in concert with that person with that person’s knowledge for use in circumventing a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title.
    - rfd4sgmk8u 5y ago
      I think you can make a valid argument against me with this. DCMA is a hell of a law. To my defense, I would argue that this speaks to production and sale of circumvention tools, and does not actually criminalize the execution of this code. But I weaken my original position about outlawing software. Thank you.

yoavm 5y ago

You don't have to control what software is permitted to run: you can just ban changing USD to Bitcoin and vice versa. Stop the exchanges. Most people aren't mining their own coins anyway.

rfd4sgmk8u 5y ago
You can ban a lot of things in life. Theft. Drugs. Crime in general. You may not understand how the OTC market works in jurisdictions like China that do indeed ban cryptocurrency exchanges and prevent fiat<->cryptocurrency exchanges. A fist full of RMB can be swapped for USDT, which can be swapped for BTC from OTC brokers. What you are proposing can only be stopped by breaking computers, breaking arms/legs and breaking economies. Violence is never the solution to problems.
- yoavm 5y ago
  I never suggested that it will completely erase cryptocurrencies. I do think that it will help making it less popular, which would be great. I sure think that while making theft illegal didn't stop it, it reduced the number of theft cases.

monocasa 5y ago

We already live in a world where the government controls what software can run, and have been for at least 20 years.

rfd4sgmk8u 5y ago
Yes, in authoritarian regimes. Which is something we need to resist in the free world. Can you give an example of software (not data...) that is illegal to run in the US?
- monocasa 5y ago
  Tools for circumvention of copyright. > (2) No person shall manufacture, import, offer to the public, provide, or otherwise traffic in any technology, product, service, device, component, or part thereof, that— > (A) is primarily designed or produced for the purpose of circumventing a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title; > (B) has only limited commercially significant purpose or use other than to circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title; or > (C) is marketed by that person or another acting in concert with that person with that person’s knowledge for use in circumventing a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title.
  - rfd4sgmk8u 5y ago
    I think you can make a valid argument against me with this. DCMA is a hell of a law. To my defense, I would argue that this speaks to production and sale of circumvention tools, and does not actually criminalize the execution of this code. But I weaken my original position about outlawing software. Thank you.