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I'd like to see numbers on how many companies actually have beer on tap, or foosball/ping-pong tables at work in 2021. I worked at a place with a foosball and

I'd like to see numbers on how many companies actually have beer on tap, or foosball/ping-pong tables at work in 2021. I worked at a place with a foosball and ping-pong table in 2018, but they were infrequently used, and when they were in use, it was always the same three guys.

pengaru 5y ago
> they were infrequently used, and when they were in use, it was always the same three guys. Incidentally most startups I've been part of, there were just a few guys doing the vast majority of the heavy lifting while the rest treated it as just another 9-5.
- echelon 5y ago
  > Incidentally most startups I've been part of, there were just a few guys doing the vast majority of the heavy lifting Is there a way to identify that talent and pay them more? Or find them and poach them?
  - pengaru 5y ago
    Troll public git repositories for committers with the greatest number of hours having commits, then audit for quality? I assumed this was the kind of thing Microsoft was already doing with both github and linkedin under their belt, either for bolstering their own ranks or as a paid service to offer recruiters.
    - echelon 5y ago
      Nadella is a genius. He made the biggest land grab for developer and engineer mindshare in history, and Microsoft will be able to turn that into advantages across so many different efforts. They're playing at the next level. Google, sigh...
      - api 5y ago
        Sure he didn’t get the idea from sweaty Steve Ballmer? “Developers developers developers developers!”
gmadsen 5y ago
The beer on tap exists up until the point that an HR person is hired. I've worked at a few companies that had kegs. Some seemed to make it a habit to drink and code late into the night, which I rarely did, but to me it at least signals that corporate BS hasn't infiltrated the company yet.
- herval 5y ago
  It exists until the moment there are _HR violations_ - just like any other practice that's acceptable at an early stage as it grows. I've worked at 10k+ companies that still had beer on tap, and they obviously had huge HR departments.
jdiv 5y ago
I recall a ping-pong table at an IBM branch office 55 years ago but it was only used at lunch hour. As a consultant at dozens of companies, I've seen a lot of neat perks especially in Silicon Valley but no beer taps.

pengaru 5y ago

> they were infrequently used, and when they were in use, it was always the same three guys. Incidentally most startups I've been part of, there were just a few guys doing the vast majority of the heavy lifting while the rest treated it as just another 9-5.

echelon 5y ago
> Incidentally most startups I've been part of, there were just a few guys doing the vast majority of the heavy lifting Is there a way to identify that talent and pay them more? Or find them and poach them?
- pengaru 5y ago
  Troll public git repositories for committers with the greatest number of hours having commits, then audit for quality? I assumed this was the kind of thing Microsoft was already doing with both github and linkedin under their belt, either for bolstering their own ranks or as a paid service to offer recruiters.
  - echelon 5y ago
    Nadella is a genius. He made the biggest land grab for developer and engineer mindshare in history, and Microsoft will be able to turn that into advantages across so many different efforts. They're playing at the next level. Google, sigh...
    - api 5y ago
      Sure he didn’t get the idea from sweaty Steve Ballmer? “Developers developers developers developers!”

gmadsen 5y ago

The beer on tap exists up until the point that an HR person is hired. I've worked at a few companies that had kegs. Some seemed to make it a habit to drink and code late into the night, which I rarely did, but to me it at least signals that corporate BS hasn't infiltrated the company yet.

herval 5y ago
It exists until the moment there are _HR violations_ - just like any other practice that's acceptable at an early stage as it grows. I've worked at 10k+ companies that still had beer on tap, and they obviously had huge HR departments.

jdiv 5y ago

I recall a ping-pong table at an IBM branch office 55 years ago but it was only used at lunch hour. As a consultant at dozens of companies, I've seen a lot of neat perks especially in Silicon Valley but no beer taps.