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In Switzerland for example, doctors can take vacation as they want (apart form Christmas/New Year/Easter when its strictly managed by hospital), but they need t

In Switzerland for example, doctors can take vacation as they want (apart form Christmas/New Year/Easter when its strictly managed by hospital), but they need to apply 6-12 months in advance. Another example of the situation above are factory workers, ie in Germany there are millions of cars moving south every summer during specific weeks valid for their part of the country, when +-whole factory goes out.

Scoundreller 5y ago
> In Switzerland for example, doctors can take vacation as they want (apart form Christmas/New Year/Easter when its strictly managed by hospital) You need a more diverse workforce. Where I am, the Persian guy will work every Jan 1 as long as we guarantee him the first day of spring off. The Muslim lady will do Dec 24/25 as long as she gets some other specific day off. The hard days to schedule are “family day” and other non-cultural holidays.
- thaumasiotes 5y ago
  > You need a more diverse workforce. Where I am, the Persian guy will work every Jan 1 as long as we guarantee him the first day of spring off. This is only a solution some of the time. I worked through Christmas / New Year's at eBay the year I joined, because I hadn't accrued enough vacation for it to make sense to take vacation. But there was no work to do, because... everyone else was on vacation. Having me in the office benefited no one.
  - Scoundreller 5y ago
    Some employers just start you off with 3 or whatever accrued days of vacation, or let you go into the negatives within reason. Though I’ve often try to work the non-holiday days around Christmas because it lets me clean everything up without anyone asking for much. But we always keep a skeleton team around in case (critical operation).
    - thaumasiotes 5y ago
      > Some employers just start you off with 3 or whatever accrued days of vacation, or let you go into the negatives within reason. That solves the problem considered from my perspective, but it's less good from eBay's perspective. What the company really wants is to make the vacation at that time compulsory. If I have nothing better to do, under the system I experienced, I can still come into the office and eBay has to pay me despite the fact that they have nothing for me to do.
  - refurb 5y ago
    This is just optimization. Work when most people take vacation and you can have an easy few weeks, then spend your vacation when you want. The other tactic I saw was block out vacation, but don’t actually take it so you actually have time to catch up on work. Every leaves you alone (because they think you’re off).
stuartbman 5y ago
The chaos of the NHS beaurocracy in the UK means that doctors don't get rota for their 4-6 month rotations earlier than usually 2-6 weeks before they start, so you aren't able to plan ahead further than the rotation you're in

Scoundreller 5y ago

> In Switzerland for example, doctors can take vacation as they want (apart form Christmas/New Year/Easter when its strictly managed by hospital) You need a more diverse workforce. Where I am, the Persian guy will work every Jan 1 as long as we guarantee him the first day of spring off. The Muslim lady will do Dec 24/25 as long as she gets some other specific day off. The hard days to schedule are “family day” and other non-cultural holidays.

thaumasiotes 5y ago
> You need a more diverse workforce. Where I am, the Persian guy will work every Jan 1 as long as we guarantee him the first day of spring off. This is only a solution some of the time. I worked through Christmas / New Year's at eBay the year I joined, because I hadn't accrued enough vacation for it to make sense to take vacation. But there was no work to do, because... everyone else was on vacation. Having me in the office benefited no one.
- Scoundreller 5y ago
  Some employers just start you off with 3 or whatever accrued days of vacation, or let you go into the negatives within reason. Though I’ve often try to work the non-holiday days around Christmas because it lets me clean everything up without anyone asking for much. But we always keep a skeleton team around in case (critical operation).
  - thaumasiotes 5y ago
    > Some employers just start you off with 3 or whatever accrued days of vacation, or let you go into the negatives within reason. That solves the problem considered from my perspective, but it's less good from eBay's perspective. What the company really wants is to make the vacation at that time compulsory. If I have nothing better to do, under the system I experienced, I can still come into the office and eBay has to pay me despite the fact that they have nothing for me to do.
- refurb 5y ago
  This is just optimization. Work when most people take vacation and you can have an easy few weeks, then spend your vacation when you want. The other tactic I saw was block out vacation, but don’t actually take it so you actually have time to catch up on work. Every leaves you alone (because they think you’re off).

stuartbman 5y ago

The chaos of the NHS beaurocracy in the UK means that doctors don't get rota for their 4-6 month rotations earlier than usually 2-6 weeks before they start, so you aren't able to plan ahead further than the rotation you're in