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My wife and I travelled to London UK and surrounding areas late 2019 and came back with a viral pneumonia that had various COVID symptoms. No blood samples kep

My wife and I travelled to London UK and surrounding areas late 2019 and came back with a viral pneumonia that had various COVID symptoms. No blood samples kept and serology tested showed nothing 6+ months later. There are late 2019 cases suspected in the UK and France in the last quarter of that year, based on saved blood samples. Lots of tourists from all over the world go there for shopping and the universities and tourism. Big crowds.

nradov 5y ago
Antibody tests can be negative in some cases because people don't always produce detectible levels. You might want to get a T-detect test, although it still isn't 100% reliable at identifying past infections. https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-authorizes-adaptive-biotechnologies-t-detect-covid-test https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavi...
rich_sasha 5y ago
My wife had a nasty viral pneumonia around Dec 2019, was subsequently healthy, and tested positive for antibodies in the summer 2020. Around Jan 2020 my daughter had a strange disease, with blistering in her hands - perhaps “Covid fingers”? Anecdotes aside,I think it is fairly unambiguous that it was going around by then.
- mint2 5y ago
  Hand foot and mouth if her hands were itchy.
  - rich_sasha 5y ago
    I remember looking through the symptoms and thinking it’s not that. It was also pre-Covid restrictions, so we did take her to two different doctors. Official diagnosis was “dunno, here’s some antibiotics”.
    - mizzack 5y ago
      Could be dyshidrosis.
SideburnsOfDoom 5y ago
> London UK and surrounding areas late 2019 and came back with a viral pneumonia that had various COVID symptoms. Colds and Flu season in London in late 2019 was quite nasty. I had multiple heavy colds. I went to a doctor, who said basically "yes, there's a lot of it about". it wasn't COVID. It was just a above average Colds and Flu season. That's also the last time that I had a cold.

nradov 5y ago

Antibody tests can be negative in some cases because people don't always produce detectible levels. You might want to get a T-detect test, although it still isn't 100% reliable at identifying past infections. https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-authorizes-adaptive-biotechnologies-t-detect-covid-test https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavi...

rich_sasha 5y ago

My wife had a nasty viral pneumonia around Dec 2019, was subsequently healthy, and tested positive for antibodies in the summer 2020. Around Jan 2020 my daughter had a strange disease, with blistering in her hands - perhaps “Covid fingers”? Anecdotes aside,I think it is fairly unambiguous that it was going around by then.

mint2 5y ago
Hand foot and mouth if her hands were itchy.
- rich_sasha 5y ago
  I remember looking through the symptoms and thinking it’s not that. It was also pre-Covid restrictions, so we did take her to two different doctors. Official diagnosis was “dunno, here’s some antibiotics”.
  - mizzack 5y ago
    Could be dyshidrosis.

SideburnsOfDoom 5y ago

> London UK and surrounding areas late 2019 and came back with a viral pneumonia that had various COVID symptoms. Colds and Flu season in London in late 2019 was quite nasty. I had multiple heavy colds. I went to a doctor, who said basically "yes, there's a lot of it about". it wasn't COVID. It was just a above average Colds and Flu season. That's also the last time that I had a cold.