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All of Razer's products are like that. I've been boycotting them since their keyboard wanted me to sign in to use my function keys.

by snarfy 5y ago

isolli 5y ago
I had trouble believing you at first, but yeah... https://twitter.com/mark_roszko/status/1429459359554224135 https://twitter.com/mark_roszko/status/1429459359554224135
ezconnect 5y ago
I stopped using mine when I installed their software that requires login to use the mouse 2 extra buttons. It was brand new.
nottorp 5y ago
Yep, don't forget that Razer were there first. Does the Roccat software even require registration, or it's just bloated because that's all they could do? I'd even say Razer wins on assholery.
hbn 5y ago
I can never forget this classic video of Jonathan Blow trying a new Razer keyboard (worth it to stay tuned to the very end) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UGO3EG5DC8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UGO3EG5DC8
- user3939382 5y ago
  That was fantastic. I wish I could watch Razer's executive team react to this video. I feel like many of us have this kind of experience with hardware and software but it's always a private suffering.
- flyinghamster 5y ago
  > "My preferred keyboard is one that doesn't have a user experience." Truer words have never been spoken. It's a crying shame that "caveat emptor" has become so thoroughly ingrained in the tech scene. More and more, I see some gizmo that seems interesting, take a deeper look, and run away screaming when I find out what a crawling horror it really is.
  - kortex 5y ago
    I dunno, ZSA (ergodox/moonlander) has a phenomenal UX. Online keyboard editor that generates hex code that you flash using their fully open source tool. And it's all QMK powered so I could program it by myself (it'll never be a brick), I just don't want to.
- Cosmin_C 5y ago
  The fact is that Razer sells a LOT of keyboards and they have been pushing Synapse on the users. I got out of that years ago and I currently run a custom keyboard running QMK. The users are just fanatically tolerating Synapse 3 and are still giving Razer their money. Until they stop, this kind of stuff will continue to happen.
- alliao 5y ago
  the little under breath "oh my god" is so heartfelt... I had a razor mouse and it enrages me every time it needed to restart my computer to install it's special driver. no drivers are that special.
- smcl 5y ago
  Is there definitely no way to turn off those lights via a key-combo? I know that's the case for my Vortex POK3R rgb, though admittedly it took me a while to look it up in the manual because I don't use this functionality often. The driver software requiring a login really sucks, but I feel like this was more performative than anything.
xyst 5y ago
You don't buy Razer products because they have excellent build quality. You buy Razer because of the marketing, sadly.
kakuri 5y ago
Razer is a terrible company, which is tragic because they started out as an amazing hardware company. When they pivoted to being a spyware company I stopped buying their hardware. I've been happy with SteelSeries so far. Their Rival 500 is a great mouse if you want lots of buttons and configurability.
- vultour 5y ago
  Most of Razer's hardware is garbage, always has been. The only exception is probably Blade and a narrow selection of their mice.
  - jamesgeck0 5y ago
    The Razer Blade laptop line should probably be avoided too, according to r/SuggestALaptop. Lots of quality control and battery issues. Some models appear to be designed around benchmarks, performing extremely well in short bursts but having much lower performance in longer sessions.
bostonsre 5y ago
It feels like you're allowing someone to install malware on your computer but their mice are sooo nice tho. I don't play any computer games, but the deathadder elite is like a hand ferarri for work.
ytjohn 5y ago
But the nice thing about having a Razer mouse is that it lets you get local admin on any random computer just by plugging it in. https://twitter.com/j0nh4t/status/1429049506021138437?s=19 https://twitter.com/j0nh4t/status/1429049506021138437?s=19
- hsbauauvhabzb 5y ago
  It’s a feature, not a bug ;)
ziml77 5y ago
I would love to not use Razer products, but for some reason Logitech still hasn't made a wireless G600.

All of Razer's products are like that. I've been boycotting them since their keyboard wanted me to sign in to use my function keys.

by snarfy 5y ago

All of Razer's products are like that. I've been boycotting them since their keyboard wanted me to sign in to use my function keys.

isolli 5y ago

I had trouble believing you at first, but yeah... https://twitter.com/mark_roszko/status/1429459359554224135 https://twitter.com/mark_roszko/status/1429459359554224135

ezconnect 5y ago

I stopped using mine when I installed their software that requires login to use the mouse 2 extra buttons. It was brand new.

nottorp 5y ago

Yep, don't forget that Razer were there first. Does the Roccat software even require registration, or it's just bloated because that's all they could do? I'd even say Razer wins on assholery.

hbn 5y ago

I can never forget this classic video of Jonathan Blow trying a new Razer keyboard (worth it to stay tuned to the very end) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UGO3EG5DC8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UGO3EG5DC8

user3939382 5y ago
That was fantastic. I wish I could watch Razer's executive team react to this video. I feel like many of us have this kind of experience with hardware and software but it's always a private suffering.
flyinghamster 5y ago
> "My preferred keyboard is one that doesn't have a user experience." Truer words have never been spoken. It's a crying shame that "caveat emptor" has become so thoroughly ingrained in the tech scene. More and more, I see some gizmo that seems interesting, take a deeper look, and run away screaming when I find out what a crawling horror it really is.
- kortex 5y ago
  I dunno, ZSA (ergodox/moonlander) has a phenomenal UX. Online keyboard editor that generates hex code that you flash using their fully open source tool. And it's all QMK powered so I could program it by myself (it'll never be a brick), I just don't want to.
Cosmin_C 5y ago
The fact is that Razer sells a LOT of keyboards and they have been pushing Synapse on the users. I got out of that years ago and I currently run a custom keyboard running QMK. The users are just fanatically tolerating Synapse 3 and are still giving Razer their money. Until they stop, this kind of stuff will continue to happen.
alliao 5y ago
the little under breath "oh my god" is so heartfelt... I had a razor mouse and it enrages me every time it needed to restart my computer to install it's special driver. no drivers are that special.
smcl 5y ago
Is there definitely no way to turn off those lights via a key-combo? I know that's the case for my Vortex POK3R rgb, though admittedly it took me a while to look it up in the manual because I don't use this functionality often. The driver software requiring a login really sucks, but I feel like this was more performative than anything.

xyst 5y ago

You don't buy Razer products because they have excellent build quality. You buy Razer because of the marketing, sadly.

kakuri 5y ago

Razer is a terrible company, which is tragic because they started out as an amazing hardware company. When they pivoted to being a spyware company I stopped buying their hardware. I've been happy with SteelSeries so far. Their Rival 500 is a great mouse if you want lots of buttons and configurability.

vultour 5y ago
Most of Razer's hardware is garbage, always has been. The only exception is probably Blade and a narrow selection of their mice.
- jamesgeck0 5y ago
  The Razer Blade laptop line should probably be avoided too, according to r/SuggestALaptop. Lots of quality control and battery issues. Some models appear to be designed around benchmarks, performing extremely well in short bursts but having much lower performance in longer sessions.

bostonsre 5y ago

It feels like you're allowing someone to install malware on your computer but their mice are sooo nice tho. I don't play any computer games, but the deathadder elite is like a hand ferarri for work.

ytjohn 5y ago

But the nice thing about having a Razer mouse is that it lets you get local admin on any random computer just by plugging it in. https://twitter.com/j0nh4t/status/1429049506021138437?s=19 https://twitter.com/j0nh4t/status/1429049506021138437?s=19

hsbauauvhabzb 5y ago
It’s a feature, not a bug ;)

ziml77 5y ago

I would love to not use Razer products, but for some reason Logitech still hasn't made a wireless G600.