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> In 2020, the New York Times called it a "global-scale misinformation machine". Some call the New York Times that

mdoms 5y ago
NYT is a zero-credibility outfit. If they have a problem with any particular source that's a positive signal for that source in my view.
- cbsmith 5y ago
  Surprised to see a thread of ad hominems go this deep.
  - mdoms 5y ago
    Who is the person you believe I am attacking?
    - cbsmith 5y ago
      There were attacks on both the NYT and Epoch. I don't remember which were yours.
chrischen 5y ago
I guess it's just which one has more people calling it... Add a +1 from me that The Epoch Times is basically a hate group (known anti-homosexual agenda among other things), and the propaganda arm of a cult that literally believes aliens from outer space have infiltrated society to instill progressive values. Yes, the Chinese communists have tried to eradicate them, but that doesn't mean that they are such a great group because of it. If you've seen the Shen Yun ads across the US, that's also from them, and if you've ever actually gone then you'd get smacked in the face with heavy propaganda (just check the yelp reviews).
- roenxi 5y ago
  Their evil scheme currently seems to involve supporting better privacy and pointing out some fairly glaring flaws in the US Afghanistan strategy that really should have some repercussions. Perhaps you can find some common ground with them in that.
  - oefrha 5y ago
    Bias or not (I briefly discussed that topic at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28168250 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28168250), NYT and other more reputable publications are burdened by the reality, while ET/NTD/whatever else they operate simply aren’t. I prefer to get facts first (even if selected with bias) then work from there. But if you’re okay with op-eds dressed up as news reporting peppered with made-up events as needed as long as they validate your world view, go for it.

NYT is a zero-credibility outfit. If they have a problem with any particular source that's a positive signal for that source in my view.

cbsmith 5y ago
Surprised to see a thread of ad hominems go this deep.
- mdoms 5y ago
  Who is the person you believe I am attacking?
  - cbsmith 5y ago
    There were attacks on both the NYT and Epoch. I don't remember which were yours.

chrischen 5y ago

I guess it's just which one has more people calling it... Add a +1 from me that The Epoch Times is basically a hate group (known anti-homosexual agenda among other things), and the propaganda arm of a cult that literally believes aliens from outer space have infiltrated society to instill progressive values. Yes, the Chinese communists have tried to eradicate them, but that doesn't mean that they are such a great group because of it. If you've seen the Shen Yun ads across the US, that's also from them, and if you've ever actually gone then you'd get smacked in the face with heavy propaganda (just check the yelp reviews).

roenxi 5y ago
Their evil scheme currently seems to involve supporting better privacy and pointing out some fairly glaring flaws in the US Afghanistan strategy that really should have some repercussions. Perhaps you can find some common ground with them in that.
- oefrha 5y ago
  Bias or not (I briefly discussed that topic at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28168250 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28168250), NYT and other more reputable publications are burdened by the reality, while ET/NTD/whatever else they operate simply aren’t. I prefer to get facts first (even if selected with bias) then work from there. But if you’re okay with op-eds dressed up as news reporting peppered with made-up events as needed as long as they validate your world view, go for it.