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So don't install those things? At some point it isn't the phones problem to limit a user from those things. I don't have Facebook, Twitter, etc on my phone.

by seized 5y ago

Raed667 5y ago
It is like telling an alcoholic "simply don't drink".
- Dylan16807 5y ago
  I see it more like "don't go to bars" which is pretty good advice.
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elliekelly 5y ago
I don’t have Facebook, Twitter, etc. on my phone either. But if we have a group of people saying “help! I’d really like a product that can do $thing for me because I struggle to do it alone” it would seem there’s clearly a market/opportunity. Just because we don’t struggle with or need the product being described doesn’t mean there’s no need for it.
somehnacct3757 5y ago
The USP of dumbphones is that they provide internet access to a curated subset of apps. There's no easy way to tell an Android that you do want data going to maps and chat apps, but not to your web browser or social media app. You have to jiggle dozens of permissions sliders every time you switch 'modes'. Dumbphones are that toggle. Is it going to find a $200-$300 enthusiast market? Not sure... I could see myself buying a Light Phone, but I also wonder if it's only a software problem, and subtracting features from Android will get you to the sweet spot quicker than building them up from feature phones.
- Dylan16807 5y ago
  But dumb phones don't toggle. If you want those apps to never be on your phone, you don't have to mess with a bunch of sliders to switch modes.
  - somehnacct3757 5y ago
    The toggle is whether you leave the house with your dumbphone or your smartphone. I don't think there's a market at all for people who only want a dumbphone as their primary phone. Then you're just building a bougie feature phone as many other commenters have said.
    - Dylan16807 5y ago
      Paying an extra $20 a month for a second line is even more wasteful than $3-400 for a "bougie feature phone". And if you want a pretty fast toggle, lots of phones can support multiple user accounts.
      - somehnacct3757 5y ago
        You can sim swap for free. I'm gonna try a second profile on Android for a few weeks. Could give more insight on whether dumbphones need to be hardware, or if their final form is software. One difference already, you can change your mind while out and about by swapping back to the full profile. So willpower is still needed.
        Dylan16807 5y ago
        Sim swapping doesn't sound more convenient than several sliders to me. > One difference already, you can change your mind while out and about by swapping back to the full profile. Not if you have a moderate password you leave at home.

So don't install those things? At some point it isn't the phones problem to limit a user from those things. I don't have Facebook, Twitter, etc on my phone.

by seized 5y ago

So don't install those things? At some point it isn't the phones problem to limit a user from those things. I don't have Facebook, Twitter, etc on my phone.

Raed667 5y ago

It is like telling an alcoholic "simply don't drink".

Dylan16807 5y ago
I see it more like "don't go to bars" which is pretty good advice.
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elliekelly 5y ago

I don’t have Facebook, Twitter, etc. on my phone either. But if we have a group of people saying “help! I’d really like a product that can do $thing for me because I struggle to do it alone” it would seem there’s clearly a market/opportunity. Just because we don’t struggle with or need the product being described doesn’t mean there’s no need for it.

somehnacct3757 5y ago

The USP of dumbphones is that they provide internet access to a curated subset of apps. There's no easy way to tell an Android that you do want data going to maps and chat apps, but not to your web browser or social media app. You have to jiggle dozens of permissions sliders every time you switch 'modes'. Dumbphones are that toggle. Is it going to find a $200-$300 enthusiast market? Not sure... I could see myself buying a Light Phone, but I also wonder if it's only a software problem, and subtracting features from Android will get you to the sweet spot quicker than building them up from feature phones.

Dylan16807 5y ago
But dumb phones don't toggle. If you want those apps to never be on your phone, you don't have to mess with a bunch of sliders to switch modes.
- somehnacct3757 5y ago
  The toggle is whether you leave the house with your dumbphone or your smartphone. I don't think there's a market at all for people who only want a dumbphone as their primary phone. Then you're just building a bougie feature phone as many other commenters have said.
  - Dylan16807 5y ago
    Paying an extra $20 a month for a second line is even more wasteful than $3-400 for a "bougie feature phone". And if you want a pretty fast toggle, lots of phones can support multiple user accounts.
    - somehnacct3757 5y ago
      You can sim swap for free. I'm gonna try a second profile on Android for a few weeks. Could give more insight on whether dumbphones need to be hardware, or if their final form is software. One difference already, you can change your mind while out and about by swapping back to the full profile. So willpower is still needed.
      - Dylan16807 5y ago
        Sim swapping doesn't sound more convenient than several sliders to me. > One difference already, you can change your mind while out and about by swapping back to the full profile. Not if you have a moderate password you leave at home.