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Just today (possibly related) someone else tweeted: Sooo, #Apple has pics of my boobs. During a discovery thing 3yr ago, legal forced me to hand-over all my te

by slyall 5y ago

Just today (possibly related) someone else tweeted: Sooo, #Apple has pics of my boobs. During a discovery thing 3yr ago, legal forced me to hand-over all my texts. They refused to let me delete anything, even "fully personal," even when I said "by fully personal I mean nudes." They said they're in their "permanent evidence locker" I questioned this aggressively. Apple R&D pressures us to have one iPhone for work & personal (so we can "live on" / dogfood). I said, if there's texts that aren't with employees and have nothing to do with work, I should be able to delete them or at least attachments. "Nope." https://twitter.com/ashleygjovik/status/1428495420917837826 https://twitter.com/ashleygjovik/status/1428495420917837826

cryptonector 5y ago
You need three sets of personal devices to work at Apple then? Who knew.
sneak 5y ago
Apple already had her (and everyone else who iMessages) nudes: iCloud Backup is not e2e and is on by default and escrows either the iMessage plaintext or the iMessage sync keys to Apple, encrypted with Apple keys. Apple can read all of the stuff you text or iMessage if you (and all the people you text with) haven't disabled iCloud Backup. This goes for every iOS device in the world, not just Apple corporate ones. They even have my nudes (despite my not using iMessage, SMS, or iCloud) because I send them sometimes on Signal to people who save them in their iOS camera roll and have iCloud still enabled by default. (iCloud Photos, like iCloud Backup, is also not e2e.) (If your employer is pressuring you to do something you are not legally required to do and don't want to, it should immediately sound alarm bells and harder personal boundary defense.)
- chii 5y ago
  > If your employer is pressuring you to do something you are not legally required to do and don't want to One should always put a price on actions your employer wants you to do, so that there's an economic back pressure. For example, if an employer forces you to use work phone as a personal phone for dogfooding purposes, you must extract a price out of your employer for giving up this privacy. Or quit, if the price the employer is too high for an employer to pay.

by slyall 5y ago

cryptonector 5y ago

You need three sets of personal devices to work at Apple then? Who knew.

sneak 5y ago

Apple already had her (and everyone else who iMessages) nudes: iCloud Backup is not e2e and is on by default and escrows either the iMessage plaintext or the iMessage sync keys to Apple, encrypted with Apple keys. Apple can read all of the stuff you text or iMessage if you (and all the people you text with) haven't disabled iCloud Backup. This goes for every iOS device in the world, not just Apple corporate ones. They even have my nudes (despite my not using iMessage, SMS, or iCloud) because I send them sometimes on Signal to people who save them in their iOS camera roll and have iCloud still enabled by default. (iCloud Photos, like iCloud Backup, is also not e2e.) (If your employer is pressuring you to do something you are not legally required to do and don't want to, it should immediately sound alarm bells and harder personal boundary defense.)

chii 5y ago
> If your employer is pressuring you to do something you are not legally required to do and don't want to One should always put a price on actions your employer wants you to do, so that there's an economic back pressure. For example, if an employer forces you to use work phone as a personal phone for dogfooding purposes, you must extract a price out of your employer for giving up this privacy. Or quit, if the price the employer is too high for an employer to pay.