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The presentation said something like they planned for it to be "open" or something. I believe that was the first the dev team had heard of it. People have gues

by pfranz 5y ago

The presentation said something like they planned for it to be "open" or something. I believe that was the first the dev team had heard of it. People have guess that patents prevented it from actually being an open standard. Coincidentally, some of those patents expired in the last year or two and the last should expire this year. But I kind of guess the window has passed for it becoming open.

solarkraft 5y ago
> But I kind of guess the window has passed for it becoming open. It’s moving there. They’re adding a web interface this year.
- ftio 5y ago
  That web interface is a customer acquisition and retention play. It enables FaceTime users to stay in the ecosystem when their friends don't use the platform they do (vs going to Zoom, which is available for everyone). And it enables non-users to get a taste of FaceTime without before they buy an iPhone. It's a brilliant move, but I wouldn't call it open. Maybe "open enough" :D
  - CSSer 5y ago
    They have a lot of work to do if that is the case. The beta experience at present is downright poor, particularly on the non-Apple end of things.
- pfranz 5y ago
  I found the clip from the 2010 keynote [1]. Steve Jobs said, "We’re going to take it all the way. We’re going to the standards bodies tomorrow and we’re going to make FaceTime an open industry standard." I didn't watch the whole video, so I might have missed some context, but this lines up with my memory. I don't see a web client being a move in that direction. [1] https://youtu.be/eujypqKT8o0?t=5809 https://youtu.be/eujypqKT8o0?t=5809
  - abrowne 5y ago
    IIRC, when Jobs said that sentence, it was the first time the team was told of any plan to make it a standard. There hadn't been any legal or technical review that it would be possible. (Not in 11 years now they couldn't have made it happen if they wanted to.)
ksec 5y ago
>People have guess that patents prevented it from actually being an open standard. Not guessed. Apple was actually sued and had to change how FaceTime works.

by pfranz 5y ago

solarkraft 5y ago

> But I kind of guess the window has passed for it becoming open. It’s moving there. They’re adding a web interface this year.

ftio 5y ago
That web interface is a customer acquisition and retention play. It enables FaceTime users to stay in the ecosystem when their friends don't use the platform they do (vs going to Zoom, which is available for everyone). And it enables non-users to get a taste of FaceTime without before they buy an iPhone. It's a brilliant move, but I wouldn't call it open. Maybe "open enough" :D
- CSSer 5y ago
  They have a lot of work to do if that is the case. The beta experience at present is downright poor, particularly on the non-Apple end of things.
pfranz 5y ago
I found the clip from the 2010 keynote [1]. Steve Jobs said, "We’re going to take it all the way. We’re going to the standards bodies tomorrow and we’re going to make FaceTime an open industry standard." I didn't watch the whole video, so I might have missed some context, but this lines up with my memory. I don't see a web client being a move in that direction. [1] https://youtu.be/eujypqKT8o0?t=5809 https://youtu.be/eujypqKT8o0?t=5809
- abrowne 5y ago
  IIRC, when Jobs said that sentence, it was the first time the team was told of any plan to make it a standard. There hadn't been any legal or technical review that it would be possible. (Not in 11 years now they couldn't have made it happen if they wanted to.)

ksec 5y ago

>People have guess that patents prevented it from actually being an open standard. Not guessed. Apple was actually sued and had to change how FaceTime works.