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Hey, WW84 doesn’t belong on that list! - It’s not that bad (60% metacritic, 59%/73% Rotten Tomatoes) - It at least broke even ($100MM lost theatrically, but d

Hey, WW84 doesn’t belong on that list! - It’s not that bad (60% metacritic, 59%/73% Rotten Tomatoes) - It at least broke even ($100MM lost theatrically, but during covid, and made up for by new HBO Max signups) - The third WW movie is still happening

merpnderp 5y ago
I think most adults you talk to that don't like it, don't realize it was a children's movie. Compare WW's intro in Justice League where she's breaking skulls against walls against the intro in 1984 where her violence is Disneyified.
- 1123581321 5y ago
  Indeed. She was open about it being a tribute to Richard Donner’s style of filmmaking and he had what’s now an unfashionable sense of what makes s great family movie.
zimpenfish 5y ago
> It at least broke even Sure? [1] says budget $200M, all-time worldwide $166M - given marketing of $100M (cheap, normally considered 2x the budget), those HBO Max signups would have to be $134M; which seems like a lot considering they only have about 13M subscribers[2]. [1] https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Wonder-Woman-1984-(2020)#tab=summary https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Wonder-Woman-1984-(2020)#t... [2] https://www.businessinsider.com/wonder-woman-1984-helping-hbo-max-slow-box-office-data-2021-1?r=US&IR=T https://www.businessinsider.com/wonder-woman-1984-helping-hb...
- 1123581321 5y ago
  Fairly sure, using a similar model. New signups driven by the movie were about four million, so retention and lagging signups only needed to contribute another ~10 million subscription months.
  - zimpenfish 5y ago
    Yeah, [1] gives ~2.8M new retail US subs from end of 2020 to March 2021; that in itself would cover $167M if they signed up for 6 months. [1] https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/hbo-max-subscribers-million-second-quarter-4148451/ https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/hbo-max-s...
sandworm101 5y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_biggest_box-office_bombs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_biggest_box-office_bom... If it is on that list, there were mistakes made. I just pulled two titles of movie that, beyond being flops, I myself saw and did not like.
- 1123581321 5y ago
  I would say it should be there since that list doesn’t factor streaming revenue.

merpnderp 5y ago

I think most adults you talk to that don't like it, don't realize it was a children's movie. Compare WW's intro in Justice League where she's breaking skulls against walls against the intro in 1984 where her violence is Disneyified.

1123581321 5y ago
Indeed. She was open about it being a tribute to Richard Donner’s style of filmmaking and he had what’s now an unfashionable sense of what makes s great family movie.

zimpenfish 5y ago

> It at least broke even Sure? [1] says budget $200M, all-time worldwide $166M - given marketing of $100M (cheap, normally considered 2x the budget), those HBO Max signups would have to be $134M; which seems like a lot considering they only have about 13M subscribers[2]. [1] https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Wonder-Woman-1984-(2020)#tab=summary https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Wonder-Woman-1984-(2020)#t... [2] https://www.businessinsider.com/wonder-woman-1984-helping-hbo-max-slow-box-office-data-2021-1?r=US&IR=T https://www.businessinsider.com/wonder-woman-1984-helping-hb...

1123581321 5y ago
Fairly sure, using a similar model. New signups driven by the movie were about four million, so retention and lagging signups only needed to contribute another ~10 million subscription months.
- zimpenfish 5y ago
  Yeah, [1] gives ~2.8M new retail US subs from end of 2020 to March 2021; that in itself would cover $167M if they signed up for 6 months. [1] https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/hbo-max-subscribers-million-second-quarter-4148451/ https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/hbo-max-s...

sandworm101 5y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_biggest_box-office_bombs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_biggest_box-office_bom... If it is on that list, there were mistakes made. I just pulled two titles of movie that, beyond being flops, I myself saw and did not like.

1123581321 5y ago
I would say it should be there since that list doesn’t factor streaming revenue.