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This is surreal but maybe exactly the impetus for tech companies to stop putting layers of political middle management and work with engineers instead. At the

This is surreal but maybe exactly the impetus for tech companies to stop putting layers of political middle management and work with engineers instead. At the very least, companies will be incentivized to improve security and reduce the pool of disgruntled engineers.

marcosdumay 5y ago
Maybe I'm disgruntled and didn't know it, but I can imagine reading that scenario in a book in some kind of fictional universe, but I really can not imagine things happening this way on the real life.
laurent92 5y ago
It’s akin to how, as an emir, you get a phone that is not set up to spy on you by your enemies: - Do you hire someone to give you a secure phone? But then, there’s only one link to subvert… - Do you hire a security company to build a custom phone for you? But then, there are 10 engineers to trust and all the open-source dependencies they have, - Do you purchase a standard iPhone by going to a warehouse and choosing the box yourself, because they can’t bug the whole pallet?
- southerntofu 5y ago
  > they can’t bug the whole pallet? Who gets to push updates to your phone? Isn't that a fundamental property of most phones (yes even "dumb" phones) to be controllable remotely? Whether through (unisolated) modem firmware, or via the system's service such as Google Play Services? So i'd say all in all it's not just that pallet that's bug, but the entire production line ;)
  - laurent92 5y ago
    The NSA is out of the league, but sometimes there are other enemies to protect from. Does Bill Gates just have a standard phone? Do Macron and Merkel just have standard phones? I have difficulty imagining they run Apple’s image detection software.
southerntofu 5y ago
Disgruntled employees are not just the engineers, there's a lot more people waiting in line to take revenge against management ;)
Igelau 5y ago
Or it's one more tick on the balance sheet of crypto ills outweighing crypto benefits, and one more step towards heavy-handed laws prosecuting the use of crypto.

marcosdumay 5y ago

Maybe I'm disgruntled and didn't know it, but I can imagine reading that scenario in a book in some kind of fictional universe, but I really can not imagine things happening this way on the real life.

laurent92 5y ago

It’s akin to how, as an emir, you get a phone that is not set up to spy on you by your enemies: - Do you hire someone to give you a secure phone? But then, there’s only one link to subvert… - Do you hire a security company to build a custom phone for you? But then, there are 10 engineers to trust and all the open-source dependencies they have, - Do you purchase a standard iPhone by going to a warehouse and choosing the box yourself, because they can’t bug the whole pallet?

southerntofu 5y ago
> they can’t bug the whole pallet? Who gets to push updates to your phone? Isn't that a fundamental property of most phones (yes even "dumb" phones) to be controllable remotely? Whether through (unisolated) modem firmware, or via the system's service such as Google Play Services? So i'd say all in all it's not just that pallet that's bug, but the entire production line ;)
- laurent92 5y ago
  The NSA is out of the league, but sometimes there are other enemies to protect from. Does Bill Gates just have a standard phone? Do Macron and Merkel just have standard phones? I have difficulty imagining they run Apple’s image detection software.

southerntofu 5y ago

Disgruntled employees are not just the engineers, there's a lot more people waiting in line to take revenge against management ;)

Igelau 5y ago

Or it's one more tick on the balance sheet of crypto ills outweighing crypto benefits, and one more step towards heavy-handed laws prosecuting the use of crypto.