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Not related, but related: I could definitely use a consistent, coherent, pixel-perfect Windows 95 theme package for Linux. QT, GTK, DE does not really matter, a

Not related, but related: I could definitely use a consistent, coherent, pixel-perfect Windows 95 theme package for Linux. QT, GTK, DE does not really matter, as long as they blend in properly. Something like the adapta-project.

anthk 5y ago
Check Chicago95
- klaussilveira 5y ago
  The problem with Chicago 95 is that it is not consistent. Check the padding/margin on these buttons: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/grassmunk/Chicago95/master/Screenshots/lock_screen.png https://raw.githubusercontent.com/grassmunk/Chicago95/master... Now compare to these: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/grassmunk/Chicago95/master/Screenshots/Desktop4.png https://raw.githubusercontent.com/grassmunk/Chicago95/master... Or here: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/grassmunk/Chicago95/master/Screenshots/Desktop1.png https://raw.githubusercontent.com/grassmunk/Chicago95/master... Everything is off. Compare to the real thing: https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-pVJ1V1OwSxI%2FUPmCPxdGSUI%2FAAAAAAAAANo%2F8RiXc0uIi20%2Fs1600%2FMS-Windows-95.jpg&f=1&nofb=1 https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2F4... https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Farticles-images.sftcdn.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fsites%2F3%2F2009%2F12%2Fwindowsnt.gif&f=1&nofb=1 https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2F... Or compare to SerenityOS. That's good UI work.
  - theandrewbailey 5y ago
    Those Chicago95 screenshots might be a bit out of date. Some of the systems I use have the latest Chicago95 on them, and it either doesn't bother me, or I'm so focused on doing things in applications (or on anything but the UI theme) that it doesn't bother me.
qwerty456127 5y ago
I also wouldn't mind (and would certainly donate to) a "consistent, coherent, pixel-perfect" (and also kept up-to-date to be easily installable on recent distros, covering Qt, GTK and GTK3) themes imitating the actual SerenityOS, as well as Windows 98 (not a radical Windows 95 fan), Windows XP, Windows Vista (it was shitty but pretty), MacOS 9.2, QNX6 Photon, Haiku and Swing[1]. Perhaps even Windows 3.11 (OMG I loved its Control Panel icons). And I've once seen a picture some other exotic retro UI which I found beautiful but I could never find it again and don't know which platform it was (I thought it was some modern Amiga but apparently it wasn't, some sort of Unix perhaps, but no Unix screenshots I found actually looked like that). Needless to say the themes would have to be extended to accommodate the features of the relevant toolkits like GTK3 complex window titles and KDE's optional always-on-top and always-on-bottom buttons (I actually want every stacking window manager to have these two, I use both of them a lot). And I would also want these for Windows 10 (and 11 obviously), not just Linux. Themes for some actual apps (e.g. Firefox) also needed. I wonder if there already is enough of aging millennials appreciating retro GUIs to form a market. [1] https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E37069_01/html/E37073/figures/ide-profiling-tools.png https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E37069_01/html/E37073/figures/ide...
- BoxOfRain 5y ago
  My favourite ever OS theme was Mac OS X 10.4 "Tiger", that period of Aqua was just so cheerful and friendly compared to everything before or since. I'd love to be able to skin modern macOS back to Tiger's theme but the best I can do is giving Firefox a brushed metal theme!
  - 1ark 5y ago
    It might be worth watching how the development of helloSystem plays out, and maybe contributing. https://hellosystem.github.io/docs/ https://hellosystem.github.io/docs/
    - BoxOfRain 5y ago
      I've never heard of this, cheers for the heads up! I'll definitely have a look into it.
gnyman 5y ago
I recently came across XP4Q ( https://xpq4.sourceforge.io https://xpq4.sourceforge.io ) when I was looking for a long-term stable desktop with traditional look. Tried it out on an old MacBook and the look was great, but then I got bogged down in the standard get-trackpad-and-wifi-working. Not sure how far the "pixel perfectionism" goes, but the few hours I used it (before breaking X11) it felt good.

anthk 5y ago

Check Chicago95

klaussilveira 5y ago
The problem with Chicago 95 is that it is not consistent. Check the padding/margin on these buttons: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/grassmunk/Chicago95/master/Screenshots/lock_screen.png https://raw.githubusercontent.com/grassmunk/Chicago95/master... Now compare to these: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/grassmunk/Chicago95/master/Screenshots/Desktop4.png https://raw.githubusercontent.com/grassmunk/Chicago95/master... Or here: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/grassmunk/Chicago95/master/Screenshots/Desktop1.png https://raw.githubusercontent.com/grassmunk/Chicago95/master... Everything is off. Compare to the real thing: https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-pVJ1V1OwSxI%2FUPmCPxdGSUI%2FAAAAAAAAANo%2F8RiXc0uIi20%2Fs1600%2FMS-Windows-95.jpg&f=1&nofb=1 https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2F4... https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Farticles-images.sftcdn.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fsites%2F3%2F2009%2F12%2Fwindowsnt.gif&f=1&nofb=1 https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2F... Or compare to SerenityOS. That's good UI work.
- theandrewbailey 5y ago
  Those Chicago95 screenshots might be a bit out of date. Some of the systems I use have the latest Chicago95 on them, and it either doesn't bother me, or I'm so focused on doing things in applications (or on anything but the UI theme) that it doesn't bother me.

qwerty456127 5y ago

I also wouldn't mind (and would certainly donate to) a "consistent, coherent, pixel-perfect" (and also kept up-to-date to be easily installable on recent distros, covering Qt, GTK and GTK3) themes imitating the actual SerenityOS, as well as Windows 98 (not a radical Windows 95 fan), Windows XP, Windows Vista (it was shitty but pretty), MacOS 9.2, QNX6 Photon, Haiku and Swing[1]. Perhaps even Windows 3.11 (OMG I loved its Control Panel icons). And I've once seen a picture some other exotic retro UI which I found beautiful but I could never find it again and don't know which platform it was (I thought it was some modern Amiga but apparently it wasn't, some sort of Unix perhaps, but no Unix screenshots I found actually looked like that). Needless to say the themes would have to be extended to accommodate the features of the relevant toolkits like GTK3 complex window titles and KDE's optional always-on-top and always-on-bottom buttons (I actually want every stacking window manager to have these two, I use both of them a lot). And I would also want these for Windows 10 (and 11 obviously), not just Linux. Themes for some actual apps (e.g. Firefox) also needed. I wonder if there already is enough of aging millennials appreciating retro GUIs to form a market. [1] https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E37069_01/html/E37073/figures/ide-profiling-tools.png https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E37069_01/html/E37073/figures/ide...

BoxOfRain 5y ago
My favourite ever OS theme was Mac OS X 10.4 "Tiger", that period of Aqua was just so cheerful and friendly compared to everything before or since. I'd love to be able to skin modern macOS back to Tiger's theme but the best I can do is giving Firefox a brushed metal theme!
- 1ark 5y ago
  It might be worth watching how the development of helloSystem plays out, and maybe contributing. https://hellosystem.github.io/docs/ https://hellosystem.github.io/docs/
  - BoxOfRain 5y ago
    I've never heard of this, cheers for the heads up! I'll definitely have a look into it.

gnyman 5y ago

I recently came across XP4Q ( https://xpq4.sourceforge.io https://xpq4.sourceforge.io ) when I was looking for a long-term stable desktop with traditional look. Tried it out on an old MacBook and the look was great, but then I got bogged down in the standard get-trackpad-and-wifi-working. Not sure how far the "pixel perfectionism" goes, but the few hours I used it (before breaking X11) it felt good.