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Who will clean the toilets?
by nelsondev 5y ago
Who will clean the toilets?
- reverius42 5y agoEveryone uses toilets. Maybe everyone should clean the toilets?
- lotyrin 5y agoPeople who are compensated enough to do so despite having other options.
- nelsondev 5y agoSounds like the current system.
- cwillu 5y agoPeople who want clean toilets.
- stocknoob 5y agoIf it’s a job that needs doing, the wages offered will rise to compensate.
- gruez 5y agoWhat's the difference between that and "indentured servitude"?
- ClumsyPilot 5y agoIs that a serious question? Do you consider C-suite executives exploited indentured servants?
- gruez 5y ago>Is that a serious question yes >Do you consider C-suite executives exploited indentured servants? No, but I fail to see how this answers the question. If I'm asking you what the difference between a kid and an adult is, and you reply with "do you consider 80-year olds a kid", it doesn't tell me anything about what's a kid or not.
- Wowfunhappy 5y agoIdeally a robot, tbqh. Anything that doesn't require actual human thought, we should push off to machines. But lacking that—we could also offer people the option to clean toilets in exchange for larger homes or more lavish hobbies. But unlike today, they'd also have the ability to quit their jobs and lead a simpler life, without starving.
- ozfive 5y agoCleaning toilets doesn't require actual human thought?
- ClumsyPilot 5y agoI look forward to the day that toilets are the last problem on earth
- xyzzy123 5y agoProbably quite highly paid people who don't mind manual labour. I find it really interesting to think about how prices and practices would have to shift if we couldn't "force" anyone to do anything.
- SllX 5y agoWe don’t. We hire for a job that needs doing for a price that someone is willing to do it for. If no one applies to do it, you’re not entitled to go out and impress someone into service: you keep looking or you do it yourself.
- philosopher1234 5y agoThe reason some people are willing to do some jobs involves force. The idea that people have freedom of choice in what they do is a sleight of hand to obscure the fact that many jobs are taken due to threat of immediate homelessness.
- DoreenMichele 5y agoBelieve it or not, that's still a choice. There are people on the street not willing to make that choice. Most people on the street chose homelessness in some sense and to some degree. Someone on r/homeless once said "I didn't choose the choice." In other words, homelessness is often a case of choosing the lesser evil. They decided it was better than staying in an abusive relationship or something like that. I wish we would design and build a world with better options and fewer people being pushed into homelessness. But I also wish people would see homeless people more clearly as real people with minds and personalities and some degree of agency. It is a disservice to them to simply stamp "victim" on their forehead and think no further on the matter.
- SllX 5y agoI can’t add to your response, so I’ll simply endorse it.
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- fzzzy 5y agoRobot self cleaning toilets? For fuck's sake
- edgyquant 5y agoAn automated Toilet cleaner and a small number of people who enjoy the work
- gruez 5y agoThat sounds great if the technology and/or the requisite number of people exist, but what if they don't?
- edgyquant 5y agoThen a given society has not progressed to a point where a new economic paradigm is ready to replace mixed market economies. Even Karl Marx believed capitalism would remain dominant until automation had removed unskilled labor from the equation.
- mLuby 5y agoI've spent time researching (space) toilets. In a post-scarcity world, I might spend time to improve their design, or those of the robots that'd maintain them.
- MattGaiser 5y agoMy attempt, although I called it a cyber toilet. https://d18qs7yq39787j.cloudfront.net/uploads/solutionfile/65971/673ee73db72a-Matthew+Gaiser+MindSumo+Cyber+Toilet+and+Defensive+Smell+Management.pdf https://d18qs7yq39787j.cloudfront.net/uploads/solutionfile/6...
- MattGaiser 5y agoAnd was that for NASA's Lunar Loo challenge by any chance?
- MattGaiser 5y agoToilets should be redesigned to be easy to clean. https://d18qs7yq39787j.cloudfront.net/uploads/solutionfile/65971/673ee73db72a-Matthew+Gaiser+MindSumo+Cyber+Toilet+and+Defensive+Smell+Management.pdf https://d18qs7yq39787j.cloudfront.net/uploads/solutionfile/6... Currently toilet cleaners are so cheap that the efficient use of their labour is not considered.
- paxys 5y agoThere is always a price at which people (myself included) will happily clean toilets. The problem is right now the "choice" for the people doing it is – do the job or your family goes hungry. Have you ever noticed it's always the refugees or undocumented immigrants doing it?
- deadbolt 5y agoReminds me of the punk song, Jesus Does The Dishes by Wingnut Dishwashers Union. And so you're asking me, who does the dishes after the revolution? Well, I do my own dishes now, We'll do our own dishes then You know it's always the ones who don't who ask that fucking question https://genius.com/Wingnut-dishwashers-union-jesus-does-the-dishes-lyrics https://genius.com/Wingnut-dishwashers-union-jesus-does-the-...