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apples 2,996 oranges 621,000 I dont dispute your numbers at all...I just don't understand your point. They're just such vastly different situations managed by

apples 2,996 oranges 621,000 I dont dispute your numbers at all...I just don't understand your point. They're just such vastly different situations managed by different sets of people for different reasons. The "war on terror" was excessive and over budget, but not 100% uncalled for. There WERE follow up terror attacks that happened(london bombing 2005, madrid bombing 2004, paris bataclan attack, etc) and there were some that were foiled, even if just by luck like the shoe bomber. I agree that Afghanistan went too far, too long and too expensive but what does that have to do with covid?

Dylan16807 5y ago
Anti-terror efforts were called for. But there wasn't much overlap between what was called for and what we actually did.
- neither_color 5y ago
  What does that have to do with covid though? Im not here to justify the war on terror Im just wondering what the basis of comparison is. Covid has affected nearly 100% of the population in almost every country either directly and indirectly, either by getting sick or not being allowed to work or shop or show their face in public. The reach of covid response has gone far beyond having to take our shoes off in airports. Is OP upset that the nobody has calculated whether it has cost trillions yet?
  - Dylan16807 5y ago
    > What does that have to do with covid though? The argument is that the effort we spent in the war on terror, per motivating death, was massively greater than the effort we've spent fighting covid. > far beyond having to take our shoes off in airports That would be a valid comparison in TSA vs. covid response. This is about much more than the TSA!
    - dragontamer 5y ago
      > The argument is that the effort we spent in the war on terror, per motivating death, was massively greater than the effort we've spent fighting covid. We can't even get people to take the vaccine willingly after we made every vaccine free. When will we learn that money doesn't solve everything? It is only a sufficiently motivating factor to greedy people. Religiously motivated people are explicitly raised to be weary of money (you cannot serve two masters: choose God or mammon, where mammon is roughly translated as money, greed, or material wealth) -------------- We can't spend money to grow the Afghan army, because they weren't motivated by money. We can't spend more money to fight COVID19, because the anti-vaxxers aren't motivated by money either. Our vaccines are sitting in storage and expiring. We designed and built the vaccines in record time. I'm not entirely sure how else we could add money to this system and expect any benefits with regards to COVID19. Student nurses are regularly helping out in hospitals before they're even graduated, we're pulling retired doctors/nurses out of retirement to help fill hospitals. Etc. etc. Money isn't the solution anymore. We've spent as much as we're able. The remaining problems that face us are entirely independent of money. ---------- The only consistent thing between Afghanistan and COVID19 is that Americans have overspent money hoping that overspending will fix everything.
whydoibother 5y ago
Find me a terrorist attack on US soil that wasn't funded and planned by the FBI. Even the local militia movement here is filled with informants. There was never a true threat of terrorism. Even 9/11 most likely could've been stopped. It is all FUD.

Dylan16807 5y ago

Anti-terror efforts were called for. But there wasn't much overlap between what was called for and what we actually did.

neither_color 5y ago
What does that have to do with covid though? Im not here to justify the war on terror Im just wondering what the basis of comparison is. Covid has affected nearly 100% of the population in almost every country either directly and indirectly, either by getting sick or not being allowed to work or shop or show their face in public. The reach of covid response has gone far beyond having to take our shoes off in airports. Is OP upset that the nobody has calculated whether it has cost trillions yet?
- Dylan16807 5y ago
  > What does that have to do with covid though? The argument is that the effort we spent in the war on terror, per motivating death, was massively greater than the effort we've spent fighting covid. > far beyond having to take our shoes off in airports That would be a valid comparison in TSA vs. covid response. This is about much more than the TSA!
  - dragontamer 5y ago
    > The argument is that the effort we spent in the war on terror, per motivating death, was massively greater than the effort we've spent fighting covid. We can't even get people to take the vaccine willingly after we made every vaccine free. When will we learn that money doesn't solve everything? It is only a sufficiently motivating factor to greedy people. Religiously motivated people are explicitly raised to be weary of money (you cannot serve two masters: choose God or mammon, where mammon is roughly translated as money, greed, or material wealth) -------------- We can't spend money to grow the Afghan army, because they weren't motivated by money. We can't spend more money to fight COVID19, because the anti-vaxxers aren't motivated by money either. Our vaccines are sitting in storage and expiring. We designed and built the vaccines in record time. I'm not entirely sure how else we could add money to this system and expect any benefits with regards to COVID19. Student nurses are regularly helping out in hospitals before they're even graduated, we're pulling retired doctors/nurses out of retirement to help fill hospitals. Etc. etc. Money isn't the solution anymore. We've spent as much as we're able. The remaining problems that face us are entirely independent of money. ---------- The only consistent thing between Afghanistan and COVID19 is that Americans have overspent money hoping that overspending will fix everything.

whydoibother 5y ago

Find me a terrorist attack on US soil that wasn't funded and planned by the FBI. Even the local militia movement here is filled with informants. There was never a true threat of terrorism. Even 9/11 most likely could've been stopped. It is all FUD.