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This is the only thing stopping me from buying an X1 Carbon. I had decided to buy a Dell Latitude instead, but apparently Dell did something similar [1], so now

This is the only thing stopping me from buying an X1 Carbon. I had decided to buy a Dell Latitude instead, but apparently Dell did something similar [1], so now I don't know what to buy. Maybe a Huawei? AFAIK they haven't been caught in these shenanigans yet, but I still don't feel comfortable with them for some reason. God, the laptop market is awful. [1] https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/11/superfish-20-now-dell-breaking-https https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/11/superfish-20-now-dell-...

remuskaos 5y ago
Have you considered a Framework? frame.work, mostly open, modular laptop
- ekianjo 5y ago
  No official Linux for Framework yet. While its certainly possible to install it.
donw 5y ago
I'm looking at a Librem. System76 also does laptops, as does Pine.
- aww_dang 5y ago
  I'd like to see Pine offer a larger screen and battery.
  - sam_lowry_ 5y ago
    PineBook is fine the way it is, but the keyboard is abysmal, that's the only thing that made me switch from it as daily driver to my old Frankenpad.
winrid 5y ago
I got an X1 Extreme, went to switch the graphics from Hybrid to Discreet in the BIOS to install Linux, and immediately bricked it. It was a bug. No reset can fix it. They have to replace the motherboard. They had it four months before I finally got them to just replace the machine.
- zozbot234 5y ago
  > I got an X1 Extreme, went to switch the graphics from Hybrid to Discreet in the BIOS to install Linux, and immediately bricked it. It was a bug. See, you should have picked the "Discrete" option instead. Happens to the best of us! (Apparently there is a workaround where you can remove the hard disk from the machine to make it easier to enter BIOS, then trigger the "Reset to factory defaults" and "Save and exit" options by blindly pressing the right key sequence on the keyboard. It might or might not work for anyone experiencing this.)
  - winrid 5y ago
    Hahaha. What a typo. I didn't know about the workaround. The repair facility didn't either, evidently. It wouldn't even show anything on the screen, or light up the keyboard caps lock etc...
- raffraffraff 5y ago
  Their entire graphics setup on the X1 and P1 laptops is atrocious, and I've definitely bitched about it here before. Basically, you can't turn off GPU without loosing the external HDMI, so you need to leave it on if you use an external monitor. But that eats battery. And you can't easily turn the GPU on/off whenever you "go mobile" - it requires an Xorg restart. There's some software crap you can do (Bumblebee? Primus?) that works on some distros but it's a total pain in the ass on others. There isn't a clear consensus on which to use either, and I haven't found a single sane set of instructions for it anyway. Avoid avoid avoid.
  - sam_lowry_ 5y ago
    Isn't it the way Intel designed their reference motherboard?
    - raffraffraff 5y ago
      No idea. All I know it's that the HDMI is hardwired to the NVIDIA on these Lenovo laptops. I don't think it has to be this way. Surely that Intel integrated graphics chip is capable of driving an external HDMI? Perhaps what they should have don't was make the hardware of the port switchable. Even a physical switch would have done.
liveranga 5y ago
I'm happy with my System76 Lemur Pro. It's refreshing to buy a nice laptop from a linux vendor who are maintaing their own (ubuntu based) distro and actually shipping a very polished gnome experience. Edit: Forgot to mention they ship with coreboot too.
- Freak_NL 5y ago
  After two System76 laptops I have now switched to Dell. System76 is good, but it's just too much of a hassle when buying from the EU; particularly when dealing with hardware defects under warranty. After all those years I had hoped System76 would have partnered up with a representative in the EU internal market, but alas. Dell is also acting corporately weird by the way. The XPS 13 (9310) is available with Ubuntu 20.04 installed, but it's not possible to pick it in their Dutch online store like you can in the US one. You can buy it in the Netherlands (and presumably all of the EU) by calling them though. The Dutch Dell salesperson did find a way to configure it that way (with a proper 32GB of RAM too), but that took a bit of prompting and they were genuinely baffled that this option existed and that the configuration tool accepted it (they were cooperative; the knowledge just wasn't available).
  - neverminder 5y ago
    Calling them may be a drag, but when I did so last year, the rep pulled the specs that I've chosen on their webshop and gave me a 5% discount, which is quite a bit considering a £4500 laptop.
  - usr1106 5y ago
    I was forced to use Dell by my previous employer for many years. After a couple of kernel upgrades in the beginning everything was smooth and rock-solid. I bought several unused ones for a symbolic price from that employer and they still serve well as family machines (running Linux), despite being over 10 years old now. Because I don't fiddle with my machine a lot I liked the way you just enter the service tag into their support site and even years later you got all relevent information about the machine including the full configuration when it was built. Recently I had to do support for a new a Dell, some XPS 15 really high end machine. I was disappointed to see that they seem to have closed their Finnish internet store altogether, the links to the resellers are broken, the support page only tells me that the machine has run out of warranty 3 months ago (lasted obviously only 1 year). So no more Dell for me in the future.
Darmody 5y ago
I think Slimbook is also a brand that is worth considering.
jay_kyburz 5y ago
I'm going to buy a steam deck and plug a keyboard into it. Perhaps carry around a really nice portable monitor as well.
- zozbot234 5y ago
  The Steam deck is certainly an intriguing device, but it isn't even out yet. It will be interesting to see what can be done with its "native" gamepad input and touch screen, might enable some interesting use cases for actual useful work on the field.
Joff 5y ago
The Framework laptop seems to be a safe purchase. Even though the company is still young, all the reviews are praising it.
- distances 5y ago
  Framework is only available in the US now, and no AMD option. Despite all their past shenanigans, I got a Lenovo as they have solid Linux support. Erased Windows from it right away.
- ekianjo 5y ago
  No Linux support yet. Which is a real shame. If you sell an open laptop Linux should be the first OS you support.
  - locusm 5y ago
    I think latest Fedora runs out of the box.
scns 5y ago
It depends. If you wan't to run linux, then on your location. If you want to run Windows, i can't help you. As others have allready mentioned, take a look at System76 if you reside in the US. Another option would be https://puri.sm/ https://puri.sm/ Slimbook was mentioned, they are in the UK IIRC. If you are somewhere else, https://www.tuxedocomputers.com/ https://www.tuxedocomputers.com/ might have something for you.
- tome 5y ago
  I have recently become aware of https://laptopwithlinux.com/ https://laptopwithlinux.com/
  - scns 5y ago
    Looks good, thank you for another option.
- cfinnberg 5y ago
  Actually Slimbook is from Valencia (Spain). But AFAIK they send worldwide. At least I got mine in Finland at a reasonable shipping price.
  - scns 5y ago
    I see, thanks for the correction. didn't check up on them. Had them mistaken for Starlabs, mentioned in your sibling.
- ekianjo 5y ago
  Starlabs systems as well.
  - scns 5y ago
    Yes, thank you. Took Slimbook for them cause i didn't check.
- scns 5y ago
  (edit) Tuxedo is based in germany. Addendum for folks who might have favourited/bookmarked this, contains mainly additions to the excellent comments by others (credit where it is due): Slimbook is actually from Spain, they are the guys who offer the KDE laptop, they donate a part of the price to KDE: https://kde.slimbook.es/ https://kde.slimbook.es/ No idea how they get away with only 1 year of warranty in the EU though. Starlabs is the company i confused Slimbook with, they have 2 laptops on offer: https://starlabs.systems/pages/laptops https://starlabs.systems/pages/laptops Laptop on Linux (https://laptopwithlinux.com/linux-laptops/ https://laptopwithlinux.com/linux-laptops/) looks really good, they are based in the Netherlands. They sell Clevo barebones without additional branding, interesting IMO. They offer a liquid metal by Thermal Grizzly as a paid upgrade instead of Arctic MX-4. Pricy at 47€ but going from 8.5 W/mK to 73 W/mK should be worth it for people who dislike loud laptops.
rjzzleep 5y ago
I actually have an X280 in my hand. The reason why wanted it was so I would get 5 years of international warranty on it. Turns out most countries don't actually accept the accidental damage coverage from another country(I paid about $600-$700 in coverage, so for the first 3 years it's no better than an AppleCare, which is international as well). Also when I wanted to switch it for an X1C because the new ones came out while I was waiting for the stock to arrive(and well they shipped me the wrong model without LTE). They wanted to charge me 15% restocking fee not only on the device, but also on Tax and Insurance. Currently my touchpad randomly dies when the device goes into sleep. I suspect it's related to some recent firmware update that happened. The amazing premium Lenovo warranty that everyone talks about must have been before my time. But given that I want international coverage, I really don't know what options I have. Currently it seems better to just buy a framework laptop, save my money on the insurance and just pay for parts as I go.
- sam_lowry_ 5y ago
  For $600-700 you can get a backup laptop.
  - unraveller 5y ago
    Dell lets you pay $100 for a "long-life" one-year extended warranty battery when new batteries are, you guessed it, $100. It's actually the exact same battery your laptop normally comes with only this one refuses to quick charge even after the warranty period is over, no matter if its done low cycles.
- freemint 5y ago
  The same problem touchpad issue also exists on my Lenovo L380 Yoga. I don't think it is due to firmware issues as the problem existed with the original and the replacement motherboard. I had two repairs done and a good experience. One time a fan and one time a motherboard replacement. Both times the Lenovo comes to you service promised dates were a day off. This was due to a regional holyday they could have scheduled for.
  - 5y ago
tgsovlerkhgsel 5y ago
What a shame. I was about to recommend Dell as an alternative, based on GitLab's public documentation that recommends it for GitLab employees and indicates decent linux support. [1] I made the mistake of sticking with Lenovo due to the expectation of good Linux support, and while most stuff works, I can't say I'm particularly impressed. Aside from a loud fan (not sure if that is due to poor Linux support or just a property of the device), the service in the Lenovo online store was impressively bad. Wrong descriptions of the hardware, insane shipping dates that were pushed out over and over, refusing to simply remove the unavailable component without cancelling the order and going to the back of the queue, and last but not least, Lenovo defrauded me by first having me jump through hoops to claim their 'best price warranty' promise then simply refusing to honor it altogether. [1] https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/business-technology/team-member-enablement/onboarding-access-requests/ https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/business-technology/team-m...
- sigg3 5y ago
  I've 3 ThinkPads and never really dealt with Lenovo. The reason why Linux users love ThinkPads is because they're mostly supported OOB by the kernel (not by Lenovo themselves). This wasn't true of most other laptops for quite a few years. I bought my T61 in 2008, and the ThinkPad recommendation was old then. Things change with time. I believe most laptops these days are rather standardized, so linux support is ubiquitous. My point being, it's not really Lenovo supporting Linux but the linux kernel drivers that for a number of years supported ThinkPad OOB where all(?) other brands required a lot of fiddling. (And you probably just need to install thinkfan if you have full speed fans. Check out the ThinkWiki for your models.)
  - caskstrength 5y ago
    > I bought my T61 in 2008, and the ThinkPad recommendation was old then. Things change with time. I believe most laptops these days are rather standardized, so linux support is ubiquitous. No, it is not. "Modern standby" on most laptops can't be disabled and will discharge your battery overnight. Also, non-Intel WiFi is buggy 90% of the time. And don't get me started on fingerprint readers...
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squarefoot 5y ago
According to the project at the Github page, the online check has been superseded by a newer one: https://badssl.com/dashboard/ https://badssl.com/dashboard/
tdsamardzhiev 5y ago
I've been buying Fujitsu laptop for all of my friends, relatives, and family for the last 10 years, and all the issues I've had is one dead fan and one shitty touchpad. Tough, reliable, no bloatware, "Made in Japan" sticker... why does nobody in the US talk about Fujitsu laptops?!
- quadrifoliate 5y ago
  > why does nobody in the US talk about Fujitsu laptops?! Probably little to no corporate availability? My past jobs have had Dell or Thinkpads as an option, none has ever had Fujitsu. But now I am interested in it as a personal laptop. What would be the Fujitsu equivalent of a Thinkpad Carbon X1 or a Dell XPS 13?
  - _trampeltier 5y ago
    I have a U939X and I'm very happy with it. Very light (<1kg), a lot of ports, even a Ethernet port. Nice keyboard, full sized cursor buttons, real PgUp, PgDown buttons. Pen and mate touch display. Does run linux without trouble. https://www.notebookcheck.net/Fujitsu-Lifebook-U939X-Review-A-business-convertible-with-a-lot-of-functionalities.480248.0.html https://www.notebookcheck.net/Fujitsu-Lifebook-U939X-Review-...
    - ianai 5y ago
      Where did you buy it? I get exclusively old/reused machines when searching for Fujitsu laptops. Hardware-wise, these do actually seem very compelling! Like a breath of sane design after a decade of worse and worse design.
      - _trampeltier 5y ago
        I'm from switzerland and bought it from Dicitec (digitec.ch). They are not the cheapest, but they run forever. No bloatware, also my moms notebook does still run nice after 10 years. I just swaped the HDD to an SSD some years ago.
  - 5y ago
MagnumOpus 5y ago
Taiwanese laptops? Asus is a contender in every weight class. Acer maybe too. Or Japanese. I personally don’t like Sony, but they and Fujitsu are alternatives to crapware from the PRC too.
badjeans 5y ago
I have a Huawei matebook x pro and I would highly recommend it. Great build quality and 3:2 screen.
MrPatan 5y ago
If spyware concerns keep you from Lenovo and you then consider Huawei.... I don't know, man.
- jsilence 5y ago
  I read that as a 'tongue in cheek' comment.
nsizx 5y ago
Nah, it's not. Buy a MacBook.
vbezhenar 5y ago
Using preinstalled OS is weird. Just reinstall it front the scratch. Issue with Lenovo was that their BIOS injected their malware anyway. Dell is not so advanced.
sneak 5y ago
The M1 macs are insanely amazing machines. I look forward to using Linux on them shortly.

remuskaos 5y ago

Have you considered a Framework? frame.work, mostly open, modular laptop

ekianjo 5y ago
No official Linux for Framework yet. While its certainly possible to install it.

donw 5y ago

I'm looking at a Librem. System76 also does laptops, as does Pine.

aww_dang 5y ago
I'd like to see Pine offer a larger screen and battery.
- sam_lowry_ 5y ago
  PineBook is fine the way it is, but the keyboard is abysmal, that's the only thing that made me switch from it as daily driver to my old Frankenpad.

winrid 5y ago

I got an X1 Extreme, went to switch the graphics from Hybrid to Discreet in the BIOS to install Linux, and immediately bricked it. It was a bug. No reset can fix it. They have to replace the motherboard. They had it four months before I finally got them to just replace the machine.

zozbot234 5y ago
> I got an X1 Extreme, went to switch the graphics from Hybrid to Discreet in the BIOS to install Linux, and immediately bricked it. It was a bug. See, you should have picked the "Discrete" option instead. Happens to the best of us! (Apparently there is a workaround where you can remove the hard disk from the machine to make it easier to enter BIOS, then trigger the "Reset to factory defaults" and "Save and exit" options by blindly pressing the right key sequence on the keyboard. It might or might not work for anyone experiencing this.)
- winrid 5y ago
  Hahaha. What a typo. I didn't know about the workaround. The repair facility didn't either, evidently. It wouldn't even show anything on the screen, or light up the keyboard caps lock etc...
raffraffraff 5y ago
Their entire graphics setup on the X1 and P1 laptops is atrocious, and I've definitely bitched about it here before. Basically, you can't turn off GPU without loosing the external HDMI, so you need to leave it on if you use an external monitor. But that eats battery. And you can't easily turn the GPU on/off whenever you "go mobile" - it requires an Xorg restart. There's some software crap you can do (Bumblebee? Primus?) that works on some distros but it's a total pain in the ass on others. There isn't a clear consensus on which to use either, and I haven't found a single sane set of instructions for it anyway. Avoid avoid avoid.
- sam_lowry_ 5y ago
  Isn't it the way Intel designed their reference motherboard?
  - raffraffraff 5y ago
    No idea. All I know it's that the HDMI is hardwired to the NVIDIA on these Lenovo laptops. I don't think it has to be this way. Surely that Intel integrated graphics chip is capable of driving an external HDMI? Perhaps what they should have don't was make the hardware of the port switchable. Even a physical switch would have done.

liveranga 5y ago

I'm happy with my System76 Lemur Pro. It's refreshing to buy a nice laptop from a linux vendor who are maintaing their own (ubuntu based) distro and actually shipping a very polished gnome experience. Edit: Forgot to mention they ship with coreboot too.

Freak_NL 5y ago
After two System76 laptops I have now switched to Dell. System76 is good, but it's just too much of a hassle when buying from the EU; particularly when dealing with hardware defects under warranty. After all those years I had hoped System76 would have partnered up with a representative in the EU internal market, but alas. Dell is also acting corporately weird by the way. The XPS 13 (9310) is available with Ubuntu 20.04 installed, but it's not possible to pick it in their Dutch online store like you can in the US one. You can buy it in the Netherlands (and presumably all of the EU) by calling them though. The Dutch Dell salesperson did find a way to configure it that way (with a proper 32GB of RAM too), but that took a bit of prompting and they were genuinely baffled that this option existed and that the configuration tool accepted it (they were cooperative; the knowledge just wasn't available).
- neverminder 5y ago
  Calling them may be a drag, but when I did so last year, the rep pulled the specs that I've chosen on their webshop and gave me a 5% discount, which is quite a bit considering a £4500 laptop.
- usr1106 5y ago
  I was forced to use Dell by my previous employer for many years. After a couple of kernel upgrades in the beginning everything was smooth and rock-solid. I bought several unused ones for a symbolic price from that employer and they still serve well as family machines (running Linux), despite being over 10 years old now. Because I don't fiddle with my machine a lot I liked the way you just enter the service tag into their support site and even years later you got all relevent information about the machine including the full configuration when it was built. Recently I had to do support for a new a Dell, some XPS 15 really high end machine. I was disappointed to see that they seem to have closed their Finnish internet store altogether, the links to the resellers are broken, the support page only tells me that the machine has run out of warranty 3 months ago (lasted obviously only 1 year). So no more Dell for me in the future.

Darmody 5y ago

I think Slimbook is also a brand that is worth considering.

jay_kyburz 5y ago

I'm going to buy a steam deck and plug a keyboard into it. Perhaps carry around a really nice portable monitor as well.

zozbot234 5y ago
The Steam deck is certainly an intriguing device, but it isn't even out yet. It will be interesting to see what can be done with its "native" gamepad input and touch screen, might enable some interesting use cases for actual useful work on the field.

Joff 5y ago

The Framework laptop seems to be a safe purchase. Even though the company is still young, all the reviews are praising it.

distances 5y ago
Framework is only available in the US now, and no AMD option. Despite all their past shenanigans, I got a Lenovo as they have solid Linux support. Erased Windows from it right away.
ekianjo 5y ago
No Linux support yet. Which is a real shame. If you sell an open laptop Linux should be the first OS you support.
- locusm 5y ago
  I think latest Fedora runs out of the box.

scns 5y ago

It depends. If you wan't to run linux, then on your location. If you want to run Windows, i can't help you. As others have allready mentioned, take a look at System76 if you reside in the US. Another option would be https://puri.sm/ https://puri.sm/ Slimbook was mentioned, they are in the UK IIRC. If you are somewhere else, https://www.tuxedocomputers.com/ https://www.tuxedocomputers.com/ might have something for you.

tome 5y ago
I have recently become aware of https://laptopwithlinux.com/ https://laptopwithlinux.com/
- scns 5y ago
  Looks good, thank you for another option.
cfinnberg 5y ago
Actually Slimbook is from Valencia (Spain). But AFAIK they send worldwide. At least I got mine in Finland at a reasonable shipping price.
- scns 5y ago
  I see, thanks for the correction. didn't check up on them. Had them mistaken for Starlabs, mentioned in your sibling.
ekianjo 5y ago
Starlabs systems as well.
- scns 5y ago
  Yes, thank you. Took Slimbook for them cause i didn't check.
scns 5y ago
(edit) Tuxedo is based in germany. Addendum for folks who might have favourited/bookmarked this, contains mainly additions to the excellent comments by others (credit where it is due): Slimbook is actually from Spain, they are the guys who offer the KDE laptop, they donate a part of the price to KDE: https://kde.slimbook.es/ https://kde.slimbook.es/ No idea how they get away with only 1 year of warranty in the EU though. Starlabs is the company i confused Slimbook with, they have 2 laptops on offer: https://starlabs.systems/pages/laptops https://starlabs.systems/pages/laptops Laptop on Linux (https://laptopwithlinux.com/linux-laptops/ https://laptopwithlinux.com/linux-laptops/) looks really good, they are based in the Netherlands. They sell Clevo barebones without additional branding, interesting IMO. They offer a liquid metal by Thermal Grizzly as a paid upgrade instead of Arctic MX-4. Pricy at 47€ but going from 8.5 W/mK to 73 W/mK should be worth it for people who dislike loud laptops.

rjzzleep 5y ago

I actually have an X280 in my hand. The reason why wanted it was so I would get 5 years of international warranty on it. Turns out most countries don't actually accept the accidental damage coverage from another country(I paid about $600-$700 in coverage, so for the first 3 years it's no better than an AppleCare, which is international as well). Also when I wanted to switch it for an X1C because the new ones came out while I was waiting for the stock to arrive(and well they shipped me the wrong model without LTE). They wanted to charge me 15% restocking fee not only on the device, but also on Tax and Insurance. Currently my touchpad randomly dies when the device goes into sleep. I suspect it's related to some recent firmware update that happened. The amazing premium Lenovo warranty that everyone talks about must have been before my time. But given that I want international coverage, I really don't know what options I have. Currently it seems better to just buy a framework laptop, save my money on the insurance and just pay for parts as I go.

sam_lowry_ 5y ago
For $600-700 you can get a backup laptop.
- unraveller 5y ago
  Dell lets you pay $100 for a "long-life" one-year extended warranty battery when new batteries are, you guessed it, $100. It's actually the exact same battery your laptop normally comes with only this one refuses to quick charge even after the warranty period is over, no matter if its done low cycles.
freemint 5y ago
The same problem touchpad issue also exists on my Lenovo L380 Yoga. I don't think it is due to firmware issues as the problem existed with the original and the replacement motherboard. I had two repairs done and a good experience. One time a fan and one time a motherboard replacement. Both times the Lenovo comes to you service promised dates were a day off. This was due to a regional holyday they could have scheduled for.
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tgsovlerkhgsel 5y ago

What a shame. I was about to recommend Dell as an alternative, based on GitLab's public documentation that recommends it for GitLab employees and indicates decent linux support. [1] I made the mistake of sticking with Lenovo due to the expectation of good Linux support, and while most stuff works, I can't say I'm particularly impressed. Aside from a loud fan (not sure if that is due to poor Linux support or just a property of the device), the service in the Lenovo online store was impressively bad. Wrong descriptions of the hardware, insane shipping dates that were pushed out over and over, refusing to simply remove the unavailable component without cancelling the order and going to the back of the queue, and last but not least, Lenovo defrauded me by first having me jump through hoops to claim their 'best price warranty' promise then simply refusing to honor it altogether. [1] https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/business-technology/team-member-enablement/onboarding-access-requests/ https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/business-technology/team-m...

sigg3 5y ago
I've 3 ThinkPads and never really dealt with Lenovo. The reason why Linux users love ThinkPads is because they're mostly supported OOB by the kernel (not by Lenovo themselves). This wasn't true of most other laptops for quite a few years. I bought my T61 in 2008, and the ThinkPad recommendation was old then. Things change with time. I believe most laptops these days are rather standardized, so linux support is ubiquitous. My point being, it's not really Lenovo supporting Linux but the linux kernel drivers that for a number of years supported ThinkPad OOB where all(?) other brands required a lot of fiddling. (And you probably just need to install thinkfan if you have full speed fans. Check out the ThinkWiki for your models.)
- caskstrength 5y ago
  > I bought my T61 in 2008, and the ThinkPad recommendation was old then. Things change with time. I believe most laptops these days are rather standardized, so linux support is ubiquitous. No, it is not. "Modern standby" on most laptops can't be disabled and will discharge your battery overnight. Also, non-Intel WiFi is buggy 90% of the time. And don't get me started on fingerprint readers...
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squarefoot 5y ago

According to the project at the Github page, the online check has been superseded by a newer one: https://badssl.com/dashboard/ https://badssl.com/dashboard/

tdsamardzhiev 5y ago

I've been buying Fujitsu laptop for all of my friends, relatives, and family for the last 10 years, and all the issues I've had is one dead fan and one shitty touchpad. Tough, reliable, no bloatware, "Made in Japan" sticker... why does nobody in the US talk about Fujitsu laptops?!

quadrifoliate 5y ago
> why does nobody in the US talk about Fujitsu laptops?! Probably little to no corporate availability? My past jobs have had Dell or Thinkpads as an option, none has ever had Fujitsu. But now I am interested in it as a personal laptop. What would be the Fujitsu equivalent of a Thinkpad Carbon X1 or a Dell XPS 13?
- _trampeltier 5y ago
  I have a U939X and I'm very happy with it. Very light (<1kg), a lot of ports, even a Ethernet port. Nice keyboard, full sized cursor buttons, real PgUp, PgDown buttons. Pen and mate touch display. Does run linux without trouble. https://www.notebookcheck.net/Fujitsu-Lifebook-U939X-Review-A-business-convertible-with-a-lot-of-functionalities.480248.0.html https://www.notebookcheck.net/Fujitsu-Lifebook-U939X-Review-...
  - ianai 5y ago
    Where did you buy it? I get exclusively old/reused machines when searching for Fujitsu laptops. Hardware-wise, these do actually seem very compelling! Like a breath of sane design after a decade of worse and worse design.
    - _trampeltier 5y ago
      I'm from switzerland and bought it from Dicitec (digitec.ch). They are not the cheapest, but they run forever. No bloatware, also my moms notebook does still run nice after 10 years. I just swaped the HDD to an SSD some years ago.
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MagnumOpus 5y ago

Taiwanese laptops? Asus is a contender in every weight class. Acer maybe too. Or Japanese. I personally don’t like Sony, but they and Fujitsu are alternatives to crapware from the PRC too.

badjeans 5y ago

I have a Huawei matebook x pro and I would highly recommend it. Great build quality and 3:2 screen.

MrPatan 5y ago

If spyware concerns keep you from Lenovo and you then consider Huawei.... I don't know, man.

jsilence 5y ago
I read that as a 'tongue in cheek' comment.

nsizx 5y ago

Nah, it's not. Buy a MacBook.

vbezhenar 5y ago

Using preinstalled OS is weird. Just reinstall it front the scratch. Issue with Lenovo was that their BIOS injected their malware anyway. Dell is not so advanced.

sneak 5y ago

The M1 macs are insanely amazing machines. I look forward to using Linux on them shortly.