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Who the heck has a couple /12s and a /13 just lying around unused? And there are even some earlier pickups of two /10s: 252.0.0.0/10 and 44.192.0.0/10. Wow.

bushbaba 5y ago
Look at who still has their assigned /8. Gonna be funny how well likely live to see ipv6 run out of ip space leading to ipv8! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assigned_/8_IPv4_address_blocks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assigned_/8_IPv4_addre...
- jagger27 5y ago
  I knew about Apple and AT&T. DoD is really hoarding them, wow.
  - selectodude 5y ago
    Honestly prudential is the one that stuns me. They’re an insurance company! Why do they need all those?!
    - lmm 5y ago
      They probably got a /8 early and gave each regional office their own /16, so they'd have to unpick all the addresses they're currently using before they could sell off any.
      - Dylan16807 5y ago
        I'm sure they could split it into /16s and sell off the empty ones.
    - axaxs 5y ago
      Same with Ford. And while I do think the addresses should be returned, they should get market value or above for them. We should not punish companies for buying into the future, which turned out to be a great investment.
      - viraptor 5y ago
        Alternative view - those addresses should not be "returned". They're owned. I hope hoarders will get blocks as large as they can so that we experience real shortage and start seeing the first ipv6-only services.
        IncRnd 5y ago
        The addresses are not owned by those in the list. They are allocated for an ongoing yearly fee.
        Sebb767 5y ago
        If they were bought early enough, they count as legacy and are fee-free. And even if they aren't, the current price trend will easily outgrow the fee.
    - IncRnd 5y ago
      Prudential got that block 5 year before IPv6 was introduced.
      - edoceo 5y ago
        Maybe they just bought it for insurance.
- smellsinore 5y ago
  Oh, google doesn't own 8/8 At least for 8.8.8.8 they need to update thier POC > ARIN has attempted to validate the data for this POC, but has received no response from the POC since 2019-10-24
ccakes 5y ago
Incumbent telcos are generally sitting on piles. Source: worked for them in a couple of countries
skuhn 5y ago
Amazon bought 3.0.0.0/8 from GE in 2018 [1]. So part of this is putting into service networks that they previously acquired, probably to keep up with growth. Buying in 2018 would have been a MUCH lower price than today -- and it can pretty much only go up! [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18407173 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18407173
- nolaspring 5y ago
  I worked at GE when this was done. Because a lot of things decided what was GE/not GE based on coming from a 3.x address it caused chaos. They called it 3-dot-geddon
IcePic 5y ago
Then again, at the height of the times, the registries handed out one /8 per month more or less, so whatever small pockets of (seemingly) unused /8s, or /10s you can find, gives you weeks to delay your ipv6 transition.

bushbaba 5y ago

Look at who still has their assigned /8. Gonna be funny how well likely live to see ipv6 run out of ip space leading to ipv8! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assigned_/8_IPv4_address_blocks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assigned_/8_IPv4_addre...

jagger27 5y ago
I knew about Apple and AT&T. DoD is really hoarding them, wow.
- selectodude 5y ago
  Honestly prudential is the one that stuns me. They’re an insurance company! Why do they need all those?!
  - lmm 5y ago
    They probably got a /8 early and gave each regional office their own /16, so they'd have to unpick all the addresses they're currently using before they could sell off any.
    - Dylan16807 5y ago
      I'm sure they could split it into /16s and sell off the empty ones.
  - axaxs 5y ago
    Same with Ford. And while I do think the addresses should be returned, they should get market value or above for them. We should not punish companies for buying into the future, which turned out to be a great investment.
    - viraptor 5y ago
      Alternative view - those addresses should not be "returned". They're owned. I hope hoarders will get blocks as large as they can so that we experience real shortage and start seeing the first ipv6-only services.
      - IncRnd 5y ago
        The addresses are not owned by those in the list. They are allocated for an ongoing yearly fee.
        Sebb767 5y ago
        If they were bought early enough, they count as legacy and are fee-free. And even if they aren't, the current price trend will easily outgrow the fee.
  - IncRnd 5y ago
    Prudential got that block 5 year before IPv6 was introduced.
    - edoceo 5y ago
      Maybe they just bought it for insurance.
smellsinore 5y ago
Oh, google doesn't own 8/8 At least for 8.8.8.8 they need to update thier POC > ARIN has attempted to validate the data for this POC, but has received no response from the POC since 2019-10-24

ccakes 5y ago

Incumbent telcos are generally sitting on piles. Source: worked for them in a couple of countries

skuhn 5y ago

Amazon bought 3.0.0.0/8 from GE in 2018 [1]. So part of this is putting into service networks that they previously acquired, probably to keep up with growth. Buying in 2018 would have been a MUCH lower price than today -- and it can pretty much only go up! [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18407173 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18407173

nolaspring 5y ago
I worked at GE when this was done. Because a lot of things decided what was GE/not GE based on coming from a 3.x address it caused chaos. They called it 3-dot-geddon

IcePic 5y ago

Then again, at the height of the times, the registries handed out one /8 per month more or less, so whatever small pockets of (seemingly) unused /8s, or /10s you can find, gives you weeks to delay your ipv6 transition.