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Note that it is in rodent. Aspartame hadn't been confirmed as a carcinogenic agent in humans. That said, I don't think it's a good idea to subject to ourselves
by kiba 5y ago
Note that it is in rodent. Aspartame hadn't been confirmed as a carcinogenic agent in humans.
That said, I don't think it's a good idea to subject to ourselves to drinking diet soda as a daily habit. It costs money, may or may not interfere with your blood sugar and the health of your gut microbiomes.
As a goal, I limit my intake of any sweet and/or artifically sweetened drinks.
Instead of being a chronic diet coke drinker, I instead became a chronic drinker of water. Two or three cups of water is typically what I drink in a daily meal.
- user3939382 5y agoTo be sure, the jury is still out on this, but there is at least reason to be concerned about aspartame’s like to certain neurological problems as well: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23280025/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23280025/ Also, it still spikes your insulin. Better to just avoid it and sugar altogether as much as possible.
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- _kbh_ 5y agonot only is it rodent the amount of Aspartame / kilogram is huge even at their lowest value (20mg/kg). Coke no sugar has ~87 mg of Aspartame in it, you need to do drink ~20 cans of it to meet the same Aspartame level in a 90kg human.
- Jtsummers 5y agoA 90kg human is above the US national average, though about on target for US men. 81kg is the US average body weight with women around 73kg. So for women, that means the quantity they'd need to consume to reach that level is around 16 cans. 16 cans translates to 192 oz, or about 1.5 gallons. That is indeed quite a bit, but about twice what's recommended by volume for water consumption for women.
- Semaphor 5y ago> 16 cans translates to 192 oz, or about 1.5 gallons. About 5.5 liters for non USA people.
- happymellon 5y agoArtificial sweeteners are in more than just sodas. The number of food products that traditionally didn't have sweetners in, that now have aspartame is increasing. That is concerning for me.
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- schipplock 5y agoI once had a limonade that had sugar and aspartame in it, probably to bring down the amount of sugar.
- int0x2e 5y agoH2O all the way. I used to drink a ton of coke everyday. I started carrying a water bottle everywhere (and I do mean everywhere), and I take small sips very often. It's a surprisingly easy habit to kick - grab a bottle and stick with it.
- gnulinux 5y agoUnflavored seltzer (i.e. no sugar, no sodium, no caffeine) is also as healthy as water and some people like myself find it significantly easier to drink than water.
- tblt 5y agoBeware, however, that the carbon dioxide in fizzy drinks causes the water to become acidic, which is bad for the enamel on your teeth.
- cutthegrass2 5y agoYep, carbonic acid. If it tastes great, there's usually a catch somewhere!
- arn 5y agoConsidering how widespread Aspartame on a societal level, you'd think there'd be epidemiologic evidence of increasing cancer rates over that time. Maybe there is some literature on it, but I hadn't heard.
- Gigachad 5y agoThe problem is that we have introduced so many new chemicals recently and have seen so many unexplained changes to health. Its virtually impossible to work out which thing did what. I'm not going to stress over aspartame though. Plastics, PFOA, PTFE, processed meats, and air pollution are way above on my concern scale. If I was concerned about cancer from aspartame, I would never touch any form of alcohol again.
- jazzyjackson 5y agoO? What’s alcohol got to do with aspartame?
- AuryGlenz 5y agoScientists think that up to 50% of cancer might come from alcohol consumptions, but it’s apparently quite hard to study.
- jazzyjackson 5y agoAh I remember watching Hamilton’s Pharmacopoeia, or maybe just an interview with Hamilton Morris, anyway he usually studies psychedelics and barbiturates and all the weird fringe drugs, and someone asks his opinion on alcohol and he says it’s a really crappy drug because you have to consume massive quantities of it for the desired effect, like most drugs that change your brain up are measured in milli/micrograms, but if you want to get trashed your poisoning yourself with, like, a liter of straight alcohol, it’s a lot of work for your body to deal with compared to smaller dose drugs. Poisoning aside I guess you need to suggest a mechanism where DNA gets interfered with, is our body just as good at error-free mitosis when we’re sleeping off a rough night?
- adrr 5y agoDrinking five diet Cokes a day is probably healthier than drinking 5 regular cokes a day. Sugar is linked to diabetes and other ailments.
- n_io 5y agoAnd smoking light cigarettes are probably healthier for you too…
- TameAntelope 5y agoWhat harm does repeating Big Sugar lies do to your body? [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspartame_controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspartame_controversy [2] - https://www.smh.com.au/technology/sydney-university-study-claims-industry-funding-leads-to-bias-in-artificial-sweetener-research-20160916-grhph6.html https://www.smh.com.au/technology/sydney-university-study-cl...
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- KozmoNau7 5y agoThey very probably are. Still, you're exposing your taste buds to sweetness all day, which can mess with your perception of taste. Plus, it just tastes worse. I'd much rather have a single sugar-containing soda on the weekend, or after finishing some hard physical labor, than liters of diet soda every day.
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- xeromal 5y agoI like the burn of carbonated soda so I bought a soda stream and I just carbonate water or homemade tea whenever I want a treat. It's definitely the way to go for your day to day if you have a bit of an addtiction!
- mattmaroon 5y agoIf they ever find out that carbonated water is carcinogenic I will probably keel over dead the next day. I measure my LaCroix habit in packs per day.
- sizzle 5y agoEver read the label on a LaCroix can? Can you tell me what the “natural” flavors are made from? The lack of transparency scares me, will the way thru process “natural flavor” cause cancer?
- mattmaroon 5y agoI happen to do beverage production for a living now. I know exactly where they come from and how many are made. There’s nothing to be scared of. The FDA has a list of things you can call “natural flavor”. They are essentially all extracts, mostly refined through distillations. I’ll give you an example: blueberry. Industrial juice is typically concentrated by vacuum distillation. It had to be shipped frozen, and that’s very expensive, so it’s cheaper to remove the water. The first stuff that comes off of that is called essence and has a delightful blueberry flavor. It doesnt taste exactly like blueberry but it’s recognizable and highly potent. A couple drops of that flavor your entire can. You can actually buy them directly from a couple flavor houses (most are wholesale only but not all) in small quantities. Check out Silver Cloud Flavors. I have carbonated water on draft and just add them in rather than buying cans anymore.
- sizzle 5y agoThanks for demystifying this topic for me. Gonna look into these flavors to try!
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- xyst 5y agoSame. The only times I drink sugary drinks are on the weekends. Otherwise it’s water for me. Unfortunately moderation is lost on most people.
- throwaway98797 5y agoIt it isnt lost on people. Many try and fail to moderate due to mental health issues. For some substitution is the answer. For other strict elimination. Different strokes for different folks.
- asdfasgasdgasdg 5y agoAlso note that this particular research lab seems to be the only one that can find any link between aspartame and cancer, with many others finding none. Additionally, this is not new data but a reanalysis of existing data, and the rats in question were exposed to a quite high dose.
- barcoder 5y agoBest too drink water atleast 30 minutes before or after the meal because it dilutes the stomach digestive acids
- schipplock 5y agoThat can lead to other problems :D. We humans are so complicated :).
- ineedasername 5y agoIf you need something a bit more exciting than water there's also always club soda and plain seltzer.