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Just wait until the September event. Apple’s media attention quadruples during that time. “Apple creates authoritarian government wet dream” will be the main

Just wait until the September event. Apple’s media attention quadruples during that time. “Apple creates authoritarian government wet dream” will be the main narrative coming out of the iPhone event. Not the new phone. And investors will not be happy.

zepto 5y ago
I doubt that. I mentioned it to a non-tech person today. They hadn’t seen the news, and their first instinct was to empathize with the Apple executives having to confront that their products are enabling pedophiles.
- katbyte 5y ago
  hearin the number of CSAM reports apple made (265) vs facebook (10 million) changed my perspective. i don't like it but they are going to have to start scanning icloud photos sometime
  - zepto 5y ago
    Yeah - I can hear Tim Cook quoting those numbers as he explains this on stage.
  - pembrook 5y ago
    I don’t think anybody has a problem with iCloud scanning (don’t they do it already?). Apple owns their servers, so I don’t care if they scan them. It’s the on-device scanning that is the massive overreach. It’s like being forced to allow a government employee to live in your home and watch your behavior 24/7 for anything they don’t like. “Oh but John is only looking for specific bad behavior like drug use, you don’t have to worry. He would never report you for anything else, we promise! If you have nothing to hide, you shouldn’t be upset that John is living with you now!”
    - zepto 5y ago
      > I don’t think anybody has a problem with iCloud scanning The large number of people here who want iCloud to be E2E have a problem with it. > (don’t they do it already?). Apparently not for files and photos. They may well do it for email.
userbinator 5y ago
Unfortunately, it seems the majority of the population are assuredly already rather authoritarian-leaning.
- newsbinator 5y ago
  I wouldn't necessarily say authoritarian-leaning. More like "just this once"-leaning, without realizing there's no such thing.

zepto 5y ago

I doubt that. I mentioned it to a non-tech person today. They hadn’t seen the news, and their first instinct was to empathize with the Apple executives having to confront that their products are enabling pedophiles.

katbyte 5y ago
hearin the number of CSAM reports apple made (265) vs facebook (10 million) changed my perspective. i don't like it but they are going to have to start scanning icloud photos sometime
- zepto 5y ago
  Yeah - I can hear Tim Cook quoting those numbers as he explains this on stage.
- pembrook 5y ago
  I don’t think anybody has a problem with iCloud scanning (don’t they do it already?). Apple owns their servers, so I don’t care if they scan them. It’s the on-device scanning that is the massive overreach. It’s like being forced to allow a government employee to live in your home and watch your behavior 24/7 for anything they don’t like. “Oh but John is only looking for specific bad behavior like drug use, you don’t have to worry. He would never report you for anything else, we promise! If you have nothing to hide, you shouldn’t be upset that John is living with you now!”
  - zepto 5y ago
    > I don’t think anybody has a problem with iCloud scanning The large number of people here who want iCloud to be E2E have a problem with it. > (don’t they do it already?). Apparently not for files and photos. They may well do it for email.

userbinator 5y ago

Unfortunately, it seems the majority of the population are assuredly already rather authoritarian-leaning.

newsbinator 5y ago
I wouldn't necessarily say authoritarian-leaning. More like "just this once"-leaning, without realizing there's no such thing.