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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_coal https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_coal And this is still a thing.

by orf 5y ago

echelon 5y ago
Yeah, these assholes: (Warning: these videos will make you very mad.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS5psOvHFIE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS5psOvHFIE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdDxjge5hmY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdDxjge5hmY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHmJSsRLgj4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHmJSsRLgj4 https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/j1yj0c/trump_supporter_rolling_coal_as_he_speeds_by/ https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/j1yj0c/trum... This should be some sort of crime. edit: Sorry, I edited out my comment about this probably giving bikers cancer after I included more videos. This can't be healthy for the lungs. edit 2: Downvoted to -3 for calling out this shitty behavior? y'all are insane.
- headmelted 5y ago
  “It probably gave the bicyclists cancer” I said this to someone who showed me one of these videos once and they basically told me to wise up and stop being paranoid. How about the whole world stops being a pack of idiots instead?
  - jacquesm 5y ago
    Oh, we'll stop alright. But not in the way that you probably intended. Earth is a pretty good self-correcting system that acts with total disregard for pesky little organisms that are along for the ride.
  - cusenses 5y ago
    > How about the whole world stops being a pack of idiots instead? Maybe you can start that?
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- pengaru 5y ago
  I'm not sure getting more views on videos posted by coal-rollers is a particularly effective way to discourage the behavior.
joshgrib 5y ago
I know someone who does this and also argues at the same time that diesel engines are better for the environment, I'm pretty sure based on the efficiency but ignoring the exhaust
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- bzzzt 5y ago
  That's true: diesel engines generally have higher mpg and lower CO2 emissions than gasoline. Problem is they emit higher levels of nitrogen oxide (ask Volkswagen) which beside being a greenhouse gas also poisons the environment. Presumably newer cars with Adblue systems which greatly reduce the amount of emitted NOX could be better for the environment than gasoline powered cars.
gruez 5y ago
As much as this is (anti?) virtue-signaling, it's not really a contributor to global warming. Idling the engine for a minute or two probably causes more co2 emissions. The main concern is the particulate emissions.
- orf 5y ago
  It’s not the act itself, it’s the fact that there is a segment of the population that will spend thousands of dollars to modify their cars to pollute more, so that they can try and humiliate people driving hybrid and electric cars. That’s a symptom of a much, much deeper problem.
  - cryptoz 5y ago
    See also, exhibit B, https://twitter.com/colinaverill/status/1414273471853514756 https://twitter.com/colinaverill/status/1414273471853514756 "Okay apparently in Texas we have moved past climate denial within the oil and gas industry to outright CHEERING ON THE RCP 8.5 APOCALYPSE"
  - cure 5y ago
    "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." -Albert Einstein. Unfortunately, this is nothing new.
  - rootusrootus 5y ago
    > so that they can try and humiliate people driving hybrid and electric cars I don't think that's really what they're trying to do. It looks more like garden variety virtue signaling. Just like flags in the back of the truck, etc. They're announcing membership in their tribe. I do wish they'd choose something that didn't pollute the air we all breathe.
    - orf 5y ago
      Ok then, people spending thousands of dollars to make their cars less fuel efficient and pollute more. It’s the same point. That doesn’t exist anywhere else in the world. It’s ridiculous. But the fact it exists in the country with the largest per-person capita of CO2 emissions points to a huge underlying social problem that is unlikely to be fixed in the near future.
systemvoltage 5y ago
This always gets brought up and it's a distraction from the real coal power plants that contribute to double digit CO2 emissions. Some guy blowing up smoke in the truck might make you raged but it's misplaced. Can we get raged at the coal powered power plants?
- myko 5y ago
  The problem is it is difficult to solve the issue with the coal powered plants when huge segments of the population are fine with "rolling coal" and think it's good to dump on EVs and green policy in general.
  - systemvoltage 5y ago
    So the answer is to get raged at Rolling coal and that’ll change their minds?
    - myko 5y ago
      I did not intend to suggest that. My point is that without changing folks opinions greater change is not possible - and a large number of people do not think climate change is something important to combat. Getting mad at coal plants won't help either, it will just give that segment of the population something to rally behind (coal power).
- UnpossibleJim 5y ago
  https://www.ecori.org/climate-change/2019/10/4/global-warming-has-a-co2ncrete-problem#:~:text=Concrete%20currently%20accounts%20for%20about,9%20percent%20of%20carbon%20emissions https://www.ecori.org/climate-change/2019/10/4/global-warmin.... There are more than just power plants to worry about... Concrete is 8% of our CO^2 emissions, agriculture is 9%. There are these things that no one thinks about that need to be addressed as well that sneak under the radar. There are teams working on them that don't get the glitz and glamour (or funding) that will make an impact, if adopted. EDIT: I'm not downplaying transportation pollution... just a quick edit to make it clear.
Wohlf 5y ago
These people don't matter, a single day of traffic in LA does far more damage than they could ever do.
- Jtsummers 5y ago
  Their individual contributions don't matter, but they definitely matter. They represent a substantial portion of the population who simply do not care about the environment and believe in its active destruction in their own neighborhoods and cities. This is important to recognize. They're the tip of the iceberg, as it were, the visible portion of a largely invisible but sizeable community who establish (through direct action, voting, and how they spend their money) a pattern of willful environmental destruction. And this is even without considering climate change. These are the people who think it's fine to toss garbage on the street, which has a much clearer and short-delay impact. If they don't care about that, good luck getting them to think on anything with long-delay impacts.
bitsoda 5y ago
Thanks, I see this occasionally in South Florida, but never knew there was a term for it. If it were me I'd have pulled over my bike for 10 minutes and waited for the air to clear. I'll never understand the motivations of some people...
SigmundA 5y ago
Then again https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solarpunk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solarpunk is thing. Teslas and solar panels are cool now. There is some hope.
underscore_ku 5y ago
same rednecks vote for trump...
- k33n 5y ago
  Proudly! His policy positions resulted in us being energy independent, reformed our prisons, and ended the forever-wars. Then there's the vaccine that Democrat leadership advised their constituents not to take. The Trump haters believe that an election should be a popularity contest, and not a contest of policy and ideas.
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  - orf 5y ago
    There’s a lot I wish I could write here. But it wouldn’t change your mind and no doubt you’ve been told it before. Trump was a net negative for the USA in a lot of metrics. You can cherry pick some, but ultimately the swamp was not drained, allies where alienated and the pandemic killed more people than it otherwise could have. Proudly restricting your viewpoint and ignoring objective reality whilst thinking that doing so gives them a superior source of pride is exactly the same condition that causes people to roll coal over cyclists.
    - k33n 5y ago
      You are free to continue ignoring the objective reality that Trump's policies had an objectively positive impact. Feel free to "cherry pick" some negative Trump impacts that weren't wholly manufactured by the swamp.
      - orf 5y ago
        Disregarding that nonsense, I really have to ask something - when you say “better men” in your profile, are you referring to yourself?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_coal https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_coal And this is still a thing.

by orf 5y ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_coal https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_coal And this is still a thing.

Yeah, these assholes: (Warning: these videos will make you very mad.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS5psOvHFIE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS5psOvHFIE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdDxjge5hmY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdDxjge5hmY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHmJSsRLgj4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHmJSsRLgj4 https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/j1yj0c/trump_supporter_rolling_coal_as_he_speeds_by/ https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/j1yj0c/trum... This should be some sort of crime. edit: Sorry, I edited out my comment about this probably giving bikers cancer after I included more videos. This can't be healthy for the lungs. edit 2: Downvoted to -3 for calling out this shitty behavior? y'all are insane.

headmelted 5y ago
“It probably gave the bicyclists cancer” I said this to someone who showed me one of these videos once and they basically told me to wise up and stop being paranoid. How about the whole world stops being a pack of idiots instead?
- jacquesm 5y ago
  Oh, we'll stop alright. But not in the way that you probably intended. Earth is a pretty good self-correcting system that acts with total disregard for pesky little organisms that are along for the ride.
- cusenses 5y ago
  > How about the whole world stops being a pack of idiots instead? Maybe you can start that?
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pengaru 5y ago
I'm not sure getting more views on videos posted by coal-rollers is a particularly effective way to discourage the behavior.

joshgrib 5y ago

I know someone who does this and also argues at the same time that diesel engines are better for the environment, I'm pretty sure based on the efficiency but ignoring the exhaust

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bzzzt 5y ago
That's true: diesel engines generally have higher mpg and lower CO2 emissions than gasoline. Problem is they emit higher levels of nitrogen oxide (ask Volkswagen) which beside being a greenhouse gas also poisons the environment. Presumably newer cars with Adblue systems which greatly reduce the amount of emitted NOX could be better for the environment than gasoline powered cars.

gruez 5y ago

As much as this is (anti?) virtue-signaling, it's not really a contributor to global warming. Idling the engine for a minute or two probably causes more co2 emissions. The main concern is the particulate emissions.

orf 5y ago
It’s not the act itself, it’s the fact that there is a segment of the population that will spend thousands of dollars to modify their cars to pollute more, so that they can try and humiliate people driving hybrid and electric cars. That’s a symptom of a much, much deeper problem.
- cryptoz 5y ago
  See also, exhibit B, https://twitter.com/colinaverill/status/1414273471853514756 https://twitter.com/colinaverill/status/1414273471853514756 "Okay apparently in Texas we have moved past climate denial within the oil and gas industry to outright CHEERING ON THE RCP 8.5 APOCALYPSE"
- cure 5y ago
  "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." -Albert Einstein. Unfortunately, this is nothing new.
- rootusrootus 5y ago
  > so that they can try and humiliate people driving hybrid and electric cars I don't think that's really what they're trying to do. It looks more like garden variety virtue signaling. Just like flags in the back of the truck, etc. They're announcing membership in their tribe. I do wish they'd choose something that didn't pollute the air we all breathe.
  - orf 5y ago
    Ok then, people spending thousands of dollars to make their cars less fuel efficient and pollute more. It’s the same point. That doesn’t exist anywhere else in the world. It’s ridiculous. But the fact it exists in the country with the largest per-person capita of CO2 emissions points to a huge underlying social problem that is unlikely to be fixed in the near future.

systemvoltage 5y ago

This always gets brought up and it's a distraction from the real coal power plants that contribute to double digit CO2 emissions. Some guy blowing up smoke in the truck might make you raged but it's misplaced. Can we get raged at the coal powered power plants?

myko 5y ago
The problem is it is difficult to solve the issue with the coal powered plants when huge segments of the population are fine with "rolling coal" and think it's good to dump on EVs and green policy in general.
- systemvoltage 5y ago
  So the answer is to get raged at Rolling coal and that’ll change their minds?
  - myko 5y ago
    I did not intend to suggest that. My point is that without changing folks opinions greater change is not possible - and a large number of people do not think climate change is something important to combat. Getting mad at coal plants won't help either, it will just give that segment of the population something to rally behind (coal power).
UnpossibleJim 5y ago
https://www.ecori.org/climate-change/2019/10/4/global-warming-has-a-co2ncrete-problem#:~:text=Concrete%20currently%20accounts%20for%20about,9%20percent%20of%20carbon%20emissions https://www.ecori.org/climate-change/2019/10/4/global-warmin.... There are more than just power plants to worry about... Concrete is 8% of our CO^2 emissions, agriculture is 9%. There are these things that no one thinks about that need to be addressed as well that sneak under the radar. There are teams working on them that don't get the glitz and glamour (or funding) that will make an impact, if adopted. EDIT: I'm not downplaying transportation pollution... just a quick edit to make it clear.

Wohlf 5y ago

These people don't matter, a single day of traffic in LA does far more damage than they could ever do.

Jtsummers 5y ago
Their individual contributions don't matter, but they definitely matter. They represent a substantial portion of the population who simply do not care about the environment and believe in its active destruction in their own neighborhoods and cities. This is important to recognize. They're the tip of the iceberg, as it were, the visible portion of a largely invisible but sizeable community who establish (through direct action, voting, and how they spend their money) a pattern of willful environmental destruction. And this is even without considering climate change. These are the people who think it's fine to toss garbage on the street, which has a much clearer and short-delay impact. If they don't care about that, good luck getting them to think on anything with long-delay impacts.

bitsoda 5y ago

Thanks, I see this occasionally in South Florida, but never knew there was a term for it. If it were me I'd have pulled over my bike for 10 minutes and waited for the air to clear. I'll never understand the motivations of some people...

SigmundA 5y ago

Then again https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solarpunk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solarpunk is thing. Teslas and solar panels are cool now. There is some hope.

underscore_ku 5y ago

same rednecks vote for trump...

k33n 5y ago
Proudly! His policy positions resulted in us being energy independent, reformed our prisons, and ended the forever-wars. Then there's the vaccine that Democrat leadership advised their constituents not to take. The Trump haters believe that an election should be a popularity contest, and not a contest of policy and ideas.
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- orf 5y ago
  There’s a lot I wish I could write here. But it wouldn’t change your mind and no doubt you’ve been told it before. Trump was a net negative for the USA in a lot of metrics. You can cherry pick some, but ultimately the swamp was not drained, allies where alienated and the pandemic killed more people than it otherwise could have. Proudly restricting your viewpoint and ignoring objective reality whilst thinking that doing so gives them a superior source of pride is exactly the same condition that causes people to roll coal over cyclists.
  - k33n 5y ago
    You are free to continue ignoring the objective reality that Trump's policies had an objectively positive impact. Feel free to "cherry pick" some negative Trump impacts that weren't wholly manufactured by the swamp.
    - orf 5y ago
      Disregarding that nonsense, I really have to ask something - when you say “better men” in your profile, are you referring to yourself?