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> But then you stop and think wait a second, this person is alone and wearing a mask. Isn't that odd? In fact it seems downright ridiculous. Why would anyone we

by wink 5y ago

> But then you stop and think wait a second, this person is alone and wearing a mask. Isn't that odd? In fact it seems downright ridiculous. Why would anyone wear a mask in their car when they are alone? The author has clearly not spent a lot of time in normal mode around people who have to wear their mask for their full shift. Yes, those people forget. Not us keyboard warriors who put it on twice a day for a few minutes.

oblio 5y ago
It's just convenient. You know where the mask is at all times, you can't lose it, etc Plus wearing a mask somewhere hot sucks but cars have AC so they're cool and this drawback is removed.
travisp 5y ago
Yes, my wife is an emergency medicine doctor. She frequently ends up wearing her mask in the car and other places where it’s unnecessary until I remind her she’s wearing it.
ebiester 5y ago
On top of that, when I'm going to have to put it back on in less than 5 minutes, I'll often just leave it back on. It's really not that big of a deal to wear.
thraxil 5y ago
I'm a keyboard warrior who only puts on my mask when I'm out in crowded places but I've (more than once) walked all the way home (about 10 minutes) from the grocery store and found myself in my kitchen unpacking my groceries before I realize that I've still got my mask on. Some of us are just scatterbrained...
tshaddox 5y ago
It could also just be that someone deliberately wanted to wear a mask for literally any reason whatsoever. It’s just ludicrous to judge someone for that or to consider it “ridiculous.” You might as well say “have you ever seen someone wearing a hat in their car even though they’re inside a climate controlled car and don’t need sun protection on their head?”
- cardiffspaceman 5y ago
  https://www.google.com/search?q=ayo+and+teo https://www.google.com/search?q=ayo+and+teo Wearing masks since 2017, WHILE DANCING.
- totony 5y ago
  I was raised to always remove my hat when getting inside something. Maybe OP did too and extrapolates that behavior to mask wearing when not with someone.
goodpoint 5y ago
Taking the mask on and off introduces risk of infection when touching it. And risk of forgetting to put it on when needed. If you just keep it on you avoid the risks - and you get to breath less pollution and allergens as an added benefit.
- alex_smart 5y ago
  How many people have have gotten Covid from fomite transmission so far? Last I checked the number of such confirmed cases varied from zero to one. Meanwhile the entire globe has been anxiously sanitizing their hands and everything they touch for 18 months (a lot of people in my family were even washing the grocery produce with soap and setting them aside for one day before use). All this long, long after scientists had pretty much figured out that risks of fomite transmission of Covid were vanishingly small.
  - eminence32 5y ago
    I do wonder if we'll continue to see elevated rates of hand-washing in the years to come (as people have started to make it a habit), and if that will correlate to decreased rates of common colds/flus.
  - pa7x1 5y ago
    There is no scientific experiment in the canonical sense that could confirm it due to ethical concerns. Once it was accepted that aerosol transmission occurs, since it is a much easier form of transmission it's very easy to tag all infections as having occurred through aerosol. Do all actually occur through aerosol? Some most likely happened like that, others may have been bigger droplets released talking or coughing, others may have been fomites from the droplets... In my humble opinion, all of those forms occur. Viruses are passive things, they travel in respiratory secretions of any size big enough to contain them. They will lay there doing nothing until they get in contact with a target they can couple to and start replicating. It's better to think of contamination as a probabilistic event modulated by some factors, likely-hood of the event, resiliency of the virus outside of the body under the conditions that lead to the event, etc... I highly doubt that the virus becomes incapable of infecting in a fomite in a doorknob, elevator button or keyboard. It may be unable to infect after a few hours but that should be plenty of time for an infection to occur.
sureglymop 5y ago
When I was in the mandatory army service earlier this year, we had to wear masks all the time and change them multiple times a day. After doing that for months, I literally don't even realize that I have a mask on anymore if I have it on. It doesn't seem to annoy or obstruct me in any way whatsoever. I even felt weird not having to wear a mask in the time after my service ended... We also had to test every week. I've had so many swabs up my nose that that i keep a completely straight face when doing that kind of test now.
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harrisonjackson 5y ago
And some people just aren't bothered by wearing it, so it isn't weird to just leave it in place when you're driving. I also don't take off my shirt, pants, and shoes the second I get in the car.
mankyd 5y ago
The author does not think it's ridiculous at all. The next paragraph exactly addresses your comment: > If we are only taking into consideration the information that is immediately available then the situation does indeed seem pretty ridiculous. But if we stop and consider what might be the broader context we can imagine scenarios where wearing a mask alone makes a lot of sense.
- DiggyJohnson 5y ago
  Oh man, this comment thread is about as divorced from this context as you’re likely to see on HN. Thanks for sharing.
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by wink 5y ago

oblio 5y ago

It's just convenient. You know where the mask is at all times, you can't lose it, etc Plus wearing a mask somewhere hot sucks but cars have AC so they're cool and this drawback is removed.

travisp 5y ago

Yes, my wife is an emergency medicine doctor. She frequently ends up wearing her mask in the car and other places where it’s unnecessary until I remind her she’s wearing it.

ebiester 5y ago

On top of that, when I'm going to have to put it back on in less than 5 minutes, I'll often just leave it back on. It's really not that big of a deal to wear.

thraxil 5y ago

I'm a keyboard warrior who only puts on my mask when I'm out in crowded places but I've (more than once) walked all the way home (about 10 minutes) from the grocery store and found myself in my kitchen unpacking my groceries before I realize that I've still got my mask on. Some of us are just scatterbrained...

tshaddox 5y ago

It could also just be that someone deliberately wanted to wear a mask for literally any reason whatsoever. It’s just ludicrous to judge someone for that or to consider it “ridiculous.” You might as well say “have you ever seen someone wearing a hat in their car even though they’re inside a climate controlled car and don’t need sun protection on their head?”

cardiffspaceman 5y ago
https://www.google.com/search?q=ayo+and+teo https://www.google.com/search?q=ayo+and+teo Wearing masks since 2017, WHILE DANCING.
totony 5y ago
I was raised to always remove my hat when getting inside something. Maybe OP did too and extrapolates that behavior to mask wearing when not with someone.

goodpoint 5y ago

Taking the mask on and off introduces risk of infection when touching it. And risk of forgetting to put it on when needed. If you just keep it on you avoid the risks - and you get to breath less pollution and allergens as an added benefit.

alex_smart 5y ago
How many people have have gotten Covid from fomite transmission so far? Last I checked the number of such confirmed cases varied from zero to one. Meanwhile the entire globe has been anxiously sanitizing their hands and everything they touch for 18 months (a lot of people in my family were even washing the grocery produce with soap and setting them aside for one day before use). All this long, long after scientists had pretty much figured out that risks of fomite transmission of Covid were vanishingly small.
- eminence32 5y ago
  I do wonder if we'll continue to see elevated rates of hand-washing in the years to come (as people have started to make it a habit), and if that will correlate to decreased rates of common colds/flus.
- pa7x1 5y ago
  There is no scientific experiment in the canonical sense that could confirm it due to ethical concerns. Once it was accepted that aerosol transmission occurs, since it is a much easier form of transmission it's very easy to tag all infections as having occurred through aerosol. Do all actually occur through aerosol? Some most likely happened like that, others may have been bigger droplets released talking or coughing, others may have been fomites from the droplets... In my humble opinion, all of those forms occur. Viruses are passive things, they travel in respiratory secretions of any size big enough to contain them. They will lay there doing nothing until they get in contact with a target they can couple to and start replicating. It's better to think of contamination as a probabilistic event modulated by some factors, likely-hood of the event, resiliency of the virus outside of the body under the conditions that lead to the event, etc... I highly doubt that the virus becomes incapable of infecting in a fomite in a doorknob, elevator button or keyboard. It may be unable to infect after a few hours but that should be plenty of time for an infection to occur.

sureglymop 5y ago

When I was in the mandatory army service earlier this year, we had to wear masks all the time and change them multiple times a day. After doing that for months, I literally don't even realize that I have a mask on anymore if I have it on. It doesn't seem to annoy or obstruct me in any way whatsoever. I even felt weird not having to wear a mask in the time after my service ended... We also had to test every week. I've had so many swabs up my nose that that i keep a completely straight face when doing that kind of test now.

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harrisonjackson 5y ago

And some people just aren't bothered by wearing it, so it isn't weird to just leave it in place when you're driving. I also don't take off my shirt, pants, and shoes the second I get in the car.

mankyd 5y ago

The author does not think it's ridiculous at all. The next paragraph exactly addresses your comment: > If we are only taking into consideration the information that is immediately available then the situation does indeed seem pretty ridiculous. But if we stop and consider what might be the broader context we can imagine scenarios where wearing a mask alone makes a lot of sense.

DiggyJohnson 5y ago
Oh man, this comment thread is about as divorced from this context as you’re likely to see on HN. Thanks for sharing.

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