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And they nobody even cares about racism when it's in "reverse". Look at reddits policy towards hate, they specifically carved out an exemption where hate direct

And they nobody even cares about racism when it's in "reverse". Look at reddits policy towards hate, they specifically carved out an exemption where hate directed to CIS white males is acceptable.

mensetmanusman 5y ago
This is painfully true but also hard to discuss. Similarly, different musical verses are being censored for one reason (abuse against some subset of gender), but not for another (violence against women). Interesting times indeed…
smhenderson 5y ago
they specifically carved out an exemption where hate directed to CIS white males is acceptable. Do you have a link to a policy or some other written statement that this is the case? I find this difficult to believe without further information on what you are referring to.
- josephcsible 5y ago
  https://www.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/360043503951-What-are-Reddit-s-rules- https://www.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/360043503951-Wh... > Vilifying, humiliating, harassing, promoting identity based attacks against, promoting hatred against, or threatening violence against marginalized or vulnerable groups. The carve-out is the phrase "marginalized or vulnerable".
  - smhenderson 5y ago
    OK, and I see they worded that in line with typical hate crime laws found in a number of developed countries. Do you not think the first item on the list applies to everyone though? Harassment Harassing, bullying, threatening, intimidating, or abusing someone with the intent to create a hostile environment or discourage them from participating on Reddit.
- zo1 5y ago
  It's very sad that it's not more widely known or published. If this was in the reverse, there would be huge boycott campaigns and media-backed outrage programs playing in repeating cycles till the CEO was fired and Reddit dismantled. And yet still we're told that there is rampant systemic racism against non-white people being enacted and coordinated by white people, while at the same time anti-white racism and legislation is alive and kicking right under our noses with nobody caring (and those that are noticing and caring are being shrugged off and punished for being Fox News watching right-wing nationalist nut jobs or something). It's really Kafkaesque.
- deleted 5y ago
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- SpicyLemonZest 5y ago
  Reddit's hate speech policy used to explicitly stipulate that "the rule does not protect groups of people who are in the majority" (https://fsi.stanford.edu/news/reddit-hate-speech https://fsi.stanford.edu/news/reddit-hate-speech). They've since edited the policy to remove that line, but they haven't given any indication that they've changed their mind on it.
zo1 5y ago
Or how about government legislation enforcing and pushing it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broad-Based_Black_Economic_Empowerment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broad-Based_Black_Economic_Emp... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Economic_Empowerment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Economic_Empowerment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_action https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_action https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_action_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_action_in_the_Unit...
LightG 5y ago
Me: today, I ate apples. Oranges: ... and I took that personally ... next, I started posting about it on Hacker News ... next week, I'll begin a poltical campaign about it. Do you really think that implies "hate directed to CIS white males is acceptable."? ... absolutely bizarre. @Dang. Kill me now. I'm done.

And they nobody even cares about racism when it's in "reverse". Look at reddits policy towards hate, they specifically carved out an exemption where hate directed to CIS white males is acceptable.

mensetmanusman 5y ago

This is painfully true but also hard to discuss. Similarly, different musical verses are being censored for one reason (abuse against some subset of gender), but not for another (violence against women). Interesting times indeed…

smhenderson 5y ago

they specifically carved out an exemption where hate directed to CIS white males is acceptable. Do you have a link to a policy or some other written statement that this is the case? I find this difficult to believe without further information on what you are referring to.

josephcsible 5y ago
https://www.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/360043503951-What-are-Reddit-s-rules- https://www.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/360043503951-Wh... > Vilifying, humiliating, harassing, promoting identity based attacks against, promoting hatred against, or threatening violence against marginalized or vulnerable groups. The carve-out is the phrase "marginalized or vulnerable".
- smhenderson 5y ago
  OK, and I see they worded that in line with typical hate crime laws found in a number of developed countries. Do you not think the first item on the list applies to everyone though? Harassment Harassing, bullying, threatening, intimidating, or abusing someone with the intent to create a hostile environment or discourage them from participating on Reddit.
zo1 5y ago
It's very sad that it's not more widely known or published. If this was in the reverse, there would be huge boycott campaigns and media-backed outrage programs playing in repeating cycles till the CEO was fired and Reddit dismantled. And yet still we're told that there is rampant systemic racism against non-white people being enacted and coordinated by white people, while at the same time anti-white racism and legislation is alive and kicking right under our noses with nobody caring (and those that are noticing and caring are being shrugged off and punished for being Fox News watching right-wing nationalist nut jobs or something). It's really Kafkaesque.
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SpicyLemonZest 5y ago
Reddit's hate speech policy used to explicitly stipulate that "the rule does not protect groups of people who are in the majority" (https://fsi.stanford.edu/news/reddit-hate-speech https://fsi.stanford.edu/news/reddit-hate-speech). They've since edited the policy to remove that line, but they haven't given any indication that they've changed their mind on it.

zo1 5y ago

Or how about government legislation enforcing and pushing it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broad-Based_Black_Economic_Empowerment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broad-Based_Black_Economic_Emp... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Economic_Empowerment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Economic_Empowerment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_action https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_action https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_action_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_action_in_the_Unit...

LightG 5y ago

Me: today, I ate apples. Oranges: ... and I took that personally ... next, I started posting about it on Hacker News ... next week, I'll begin a poltical campaign about it. Do you really think that implies "hate directed to CIS white males is acceptable."? ... absolutely bizarre. @Dang. Kill me now. I'm done.