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"protecting the conversation by censoring the part of the conversation we don't like"
by nsizx 5y ago
"protecting the conversation by censoring the part of the conversation we don't like"
- LightG 5y agoWhat would you suggest?
- nsizx 5y agoThat they let people post whatever they want and if someone doesn't like it then they shouldn't read it.
- mattlondon 5y agoThat is the same as saying "Just don't listen to people screaming racist abuse at you in the street! Simple!" Free speech law in the UK does not protect hate crime. Sure no one has to read it, but you also don't need to give these people a platform to broadcast their views to an audience that is larger than the perpetrator's living room or pub.
- refenestrator 5y agoIt's not the same at all, trivially. Feeling unsafe around a psycho shouting at you on the street is reasonable, feeling 'unsafe' because someone tweeted a bad word is not. I'm not even saying you're wrong but that's a terrible analogy.
- LightG 5y ago"A bad word" ... is that really what is being discussed here? How about "a sustained torrent of racist abuse". I can imagine some feeling unsafe in that situation. Can't you?
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- refenestrator 5y agoI can imagine someone feeling all sorts of things but you can also just look away from the screen. If we're talking ongoing, targeted individual harassment, that's different but still less immediate than a dude physically in your grill on the street.
- LightG 5y agoThere are countless examples of situations where sustained abuse has happened online and then carries on offline. Sure, post anonymously, and that's fine, but not everyone does (nor should be required to). It's all roses at the beginning, but when they are targeted, your "look away from the screen" is looking distinctly weak. I'll stop now. I can't keep up with your edits.
- mattlondon 5y agoYou cant give people a pass on hate crime because it is happening online. You risk excusing it and ultimately then normalising it. "Oh it is ok - their hideous torrent of systemmatic abuse calling for <ethnic group A> babies to be drowned at birth is totally A-ok because they said it on twitter so no harm done." No no no. This sort of thing cannot have any "get out" clauses where it is allowed in some circumstances but not others.
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- blacktriangle 5y agoGive individual users the power to personally ignore anybody they find objectionable based on their own personal standards.
- nisegami 5y agoDo you mean automatically? Because every site I can think of already allows this to be done manually via blocking.
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- yardie 5y agoWhat part of harrassment and racism is meant to be conversational? You are still free to be an asshole. Twitter just wishes you'd do it elsewhere.
- nsizx 5y agoIf Twitter wishes assholes stopped posting on their site they should just close shop immediately.
- hef19898 5y agoSame for any other social media platform. I for sure wouldn't miss them. Not gonna happen, so. I used to think we will figure out social media, after all we figured out mass media as well. I'm not sure anymore that I'll like the process of us figuring it out...
- yardie 5y agoTwitter has to do no such thing. You agreed to a TOS when you signed up. You violated it. Goodbye. Assholes shouldn't sign up for Twitter knowing they'll be kicked off.
- SpicyLemonZest 5y agoDoes anyone on Twitter really support that, though? There are some small niches where people are consistently nice, but in general it seems like snarky, mean-spirited takes are a big part of what people go to Twitter for.
- AutumnCurtain 5y agoI've found said assholes have an attitude that they are entitled to platforms and it's incumbent on everyone else to go out of their way to avoid them. Farcical, but they will scream and cry when the idea is challenged.
- pyronik19 5y ago