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Ask HN: Ever been asked to take a course _after_ being hired? How did you react?

PaulHoule 5y ago
What kind of course? My employer made us all take a course in "diversity and inclusion" which I think was OK because it was based on leadership principles the organization has been pushing for a long time and avoided the excesses of that sort of thing.
- readonthegoapp 5y ago
  Def not diversity and inclusion. If they wanted me to take a D&I-type course, I'd be legit worried that I had issues there. And it's just me. Think, if I was a legit senior coder, and they wanted me to take an Intro to Algorithms course -- that's a good parallel. ...updated to reflect my slow comment.
AnimalMuppet 5y ago
If they're paying me for the time, then sure. Just happened to me last month. I got to learn some stuff, improving my employability, on their dime and time.
- readonthegoapp 5y ago
  That's a healthy attitude. I would either learn something or brush up on some stuff. But mostly I feel cringe and resentment and some kind of 'I want to work with smart people again'. Maybe not fair, but that's where I'm at.
  - joezydeco 5y ago
    If you just got hired and feel this way about your new employer, then just leave. You're not going to last long anyway.
readonthegoapp 5y ago
Company is asking me to take a course for a skill that I feel..at minimum, competent, with/in. It's just another...aggravation in what seems like a job mismatch - role, expectations, etc. I'm not keen on it for at least a couple of reasons, not the least of which is because....I've seen said skill demonstrated at the company, and I'm not impressed. And it's just me that is required to take the course -- i.e. they seem to truly believe I'm not competent/enough in said skill. Were I a different person I might think, "Cool - I get to brush up on tying my shoelaces", or "Cool - a couple of free hours", or similar, but I'm not a different type of person. I didn't push back (yet) on this particular topic because previous pushbacks on various issues did little or nothing, and I've been job hunting already. There is a 5% chance I could end up staying, so curious how others have dealt with 'getting nephewed'.
pickle-wizard 5y ago
I started a job last November. Within the first hour they said here is your Linux Academy account, go learn some stuff. Which I have. Heck last year I paid out of my own pocket to take the two introduction to VMware classes, despite working with VMware 2006. Why did I take the classes. VMware has come out with a lot of new features in the past 5 years and I have not been able to use them all professionally. Also in taking the class I found that some the limitations that existed in earlier versions of the software no longer existed. I had no idea that I was no longer following best practices. Plus there was the stuff that I had flat out forgotten along the way. It was well worth the $400 that I spent. As long as they are asking you to do this during working hours and they are paying for it, I don't see why you are so upset. You say you are at minimum competent with the skill, maybe they are wanting to make you into an expert in the skill and part of that is getting you the extra training.

What kind of course? My employer made us all take a course in "diversity and inclusion" which I think was OK because it was based on leadership principles the organization has been pushing for a long time and avoided the excesses of that sort of thing.

readonthegoapp 5y ago
Def not diversity and inclusion. If they wanted me to take a D&I-type course, I'd be legit worried that I had issues there. And it's just me. Think, if I was a legit senior coder, and they wanted me to take an Intro to Algorithms course -- that's a good parallel. ...updated to reflect my slow comment.

AnimalMuppet 5y ago

If they're paying me for the time, then sure. Just happened to me last month. I got to learn some stuff, improving my employability, on their dime and time.

readonthegoapp 5y ago
That's a healthy attitude. I would either learn something or brush up on some stuff. But mostly I feel cringe and resentment and some kind of 'I want to work with smart people again'. Maybe not fair, but that's where I'm at.
- joezydeco 5y ago
  If you just got hired and feel this way about your new employer, then just leave. You're not going to last long anyway.

readonthegoapp 5y ago

Company is asking me to take a course for a skill that I feel..at minimum, competent, with/in. It's just another...aggravation in what seems like a job mismatch - role, expectations, etc. I'm not keen on it for at least a couple of reasons, not the least of which is because....I've seen said skill demonstrated at the company, and I'm not impressed. And it's just me that is required to take the course -- i.e. they seem to truly believe I'm not competent/enough in said skill. Were I a different person I might think, "Cool - I get to brush up on tying my shoelaces", or "Cool - a couple of free hours", or similar, but I'm not a different type of person. I didn't push back (yet) on this particular topic because previous pushbacks on various issues did little or nothing, and I've been job hunting already. There is a 5% chance I could end up staying, so curious how others have dealt with 'getting nephewed'.

pickle-wizard 5y ago

I started a job last November. Within the first hour they said here is your Linux Academy account, go learn some stuff. Which I have. Heck last year I paid out of my own pocket to take the two introduction to VMware classes, despite working with VMware 2006. Why did I take the classes. VMware has come out with a lot of new features in the past 5 years and I have not been able to use them all professionally. Also in taking the class I found that some the limitations that existed in earlier versions of the software no longer existed. I had no idea that I was no longer following best practices. Plus there was the stuff that I had flat out forgotten along the way. It was well worth the $400 that I spent. As long as they are asking you to do this during working hours and they are paying for it, I don't see why you are so upset. You say you are at minimum competent with the skill, maybe they are wanting to make you into an expert in the skill and part of that is getting you the extra training.