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Tech shouldn't be involved too much, we should be talking about people that get in touch with kids. Educators, doctors and maybe police. I see tech in a role t

Tech shouldn't be involved too much, we should be talking about people that get in touch with kids. Educators, doctors and maybe police. I see tech in a role to provide information about symptoms of abuse. Tech is sadly too often deployed for surveillance purposes and I think people working in that field give it a very bad name. On the other hand I wouldn't want my 14 year old kid to be exposed to everything the net has to offer. But I also don't want to put them under surveillance, they will only become compliant idiots that way. I am aware that most mechanisms will be doomed to fail because they will very likely surpass my abilities with anything technical. I have few ideas how to implement this without a great firewall for kids. Still, would be nice to a compromise between a catholic boarding school for girls and modern abusive teenage social networks. You have to leave behind some dogmatism prevalent in tech, as some naivete is worth preserving, not only for kids btw. Putting people under general suspicion is a complete wrong way and while I think chastising Apple isn't too sincere, I don't mind people doing it. Compliance like this should be punished. Although that should also be true for Google and co.

rich_sasha 5y ago
My take is that tech will be involved, like it or not. It’s too powerful, or magical if you prefer, a chest of tools for people to keep their hands off. Politics is not a tech issue, and yet we have Cambridge Analytica. Social interactions are not a tech thing, yet how many social network tech-enabled products are there? Both leave much to be desired. If we want to avoid a dystopian tech slavery, we have to actively provide positive alternatives to “just more invigilation“. You talk about protecting children from content, eg via firewalls. What about the production of the “content”? Do you think there isn’t a role to play for technology?
- raxxorrax 5y ago
  The production will happen with or without tech, not much you can do about it. > If we want to avoid a dystopian tech slavery, we have to actively provide positive alternatives to “just more invigilation“. No, you should always block any form of "cooperation" right there. Don't ever provide material so that some moderately talented official can build a profile. Basic lesson of pedagogy is to deny these attempts in the first place. It is what Apple should have done because it probably won't help child abuse anyway and it won't stop with this kind of content. Always defer them to investments in child care and defect their unproductive ambitions with real means.

rich_sasha 5y ago

My take is that tech will be involved, like it or not. It’s too powerful, or magical if you prefer, a chest of tools for people to keep their hands off. Politics is not a tech issue, and yet we have Cambridge Analytica. Social interactions are not a tech thing, yet how many social network tech-enabled products are there? Both leave much to be desired. If we want to avoid a dystopian tech slavery, we have to actively provide positive alternatives to “just more invigilation“. You talk about protecting children from content, eg via firewalls. What about the production of the “content”? Do you think there isn’t a role to play for technology?

raxxorrax 5y ago
The production will happen with or without tech, not much you can do about it. > If we want to avoid a dystopian tech slavery, we have to actively provide positive alternatives to “just more invigilation“. No, you should always block any form of "cooperation" right there. Don't ever provide material so that some moderately talented official can build a profile. Basic lesson of pedagogy is to deny these attempts in the first place. It is what Apple should have done because it probably won't help child abuse anyway and it won't stop with this kind of content. Always defer them to investments in child care and defect their unproductive ambitions with real means.