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Association of Myocarditis in Children with Messenger RNA Covid-19 Vaccine

25 points by SQL2219 5y ago

MajorPat 5y ago
https://www.openvaers.com/openvaers https://www.openvaers.com/openvaers
- sumosudo 5y ago
  I really wish people would just read this and see. MANUFACTURER DEATHS Pfizer/Biontech 8,508 Moderna 3,167 Janssen 657 Unknown 34 SEX DEATHS Female 5,561 Male 6,247 Unknown 558 AGE DEATHS 0-24 70 25-50 537 51-65 1,187 66-80 2,634 81+ 3,256 Unk 4,682
  - raxxorrax 5y ago
    You would need data on how many people received shots as well, otherwise the information isn't useful.
    - zimpenfish 5y ago
      "In the U.S., 353 million doses have been given so far"[1] which covers 164 million people[2]. GP suggests that 12366 have died directly from the vaccine which would put it at 12366/164000000 or just above 0.0075%. (Assuming those vaccine death numbers are just for the US otherwise the percentage drops even further...) [1] https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/ https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-glo... [2] https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/breakthrough-infections-do-not-mean-covid-vaccines-are-failing/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/breakthrough-infe...
  - amanaplanacanal 5y ago
    Aren't those deaths after vaccine, rather than deaths caused by vaccine?
floatingatoll 5y ago
The paper authors note that, statistically, the prevalence of this non-fatal side effect is very small, relative to the sometimes-fatal disease they're being vaccinated against: > It is estimated that COVID-19 vaccination in males aged 12 to 29 years can prevent 11000 COVID-19 cases, 560 hospitalizations, 138 intensive care unit admissions, and 6 deaths compared with 39 to 47 expected myocarditis cases.
- crmrc114 5y ago
  Thank you for the b.l.u.f.- I think reading the vaccine inserts and freaking out is a bit like looking at the MSDS for your household cleaners and having a panic attack. As soon as my kids are old enough they are getting the shot just like the wife and I- better than the death I have seen in my area from this delta variant. Our city had a 8 year old who had to get a heart transplant locally due to delta.
  - sieabah 5y ago
    > Our city had a 8 year old who had to get a heart transplant locally due to delta. Could it be possible he had to get a heart transplant because of potential Myocarditis...?
    - amazingman 5y ago
      No, since the child is 8.
  - sumosudo 5y ago
    Myocarditis. Rare enough to find it ways onto the fact sheet. https://www.fda.gov/media/144413/download https://www.fda.gov/media/144413/download -- The CDC has published clinical considerations relevant to myocarditis and pericarditis associated with administration of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine (https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/clinicalconsiderations/myocarditis.html https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/clinicalconsiderations...). As for the vaccine insert. There isn't one. Please find it, and not just the fact sheet that's being offered. I'll save you some time and tell you why you can't find it. Clinical trial practitioners don't need to place inserts in packages for trials or EUA. Its called double blind. And anyone taking this is in the trials. If the FDA approves this poison, you can be sure that that is intentional genocide.
newbamboo 5y ago
Dr John Campbell made a good point recently. The vaccine is supposed to be intramuscular but nobody outside of South Africa is aspirating to know whether they hit a vein. If it goes into the blood stream that might explain the myocarditis and other vaccine injuries that are hard to explain given the supposedly local impact of the vaccines. Not a health care practitioner myself so it’s hard to know if this is a realistic concern. I know the nurse didn’t aspirate when I got my jabs. According to the WHO it’s controversial. Seems prudent to me.
- blub 5y ago
  I asked about this specifically in Germany and they told me that they do not aspirate any more. According to the German vaccine advisory body, it’s done to avoid patient discomfort. This was originally discussed in Denmark in relation to the AZ vaccine, where they mandated aspiration. In the end it didn’t matter, as they forbade AZ completely (and deservedly)

25 points by SQL2219 5y ago

MajorPat 5y ago

https://www.openvaers.com/openvaers https://www.openvaers.com/openvaers

sumosudo 5y ago
I really wish people would just read this and see. MANUFACTURER DEATHS Pfizer/Biontech 8,508 Moderna 3,167 Janssen 657 Unknown 34 SEX DEATHS Female 5,561 Male 6,247 Unknown 558 AGE DEATHS 0-24 70 25-50 537 51-65 1,187 66-80 2,634 81+ 3,256 Unk 4,682
- raxxorrax 5y ago
  You would need data on how many people received shots as well, otherwise the information isn't useful.
  - zimpenfish 5y ago
    "In the U.S., 353 million doses have been given so far"[1] which covers 164 million people[2]. GP suggests that 12366 have died directly from the vaccine which would put it at 12366/164000000 or just above 0.0075%. (Assuming those vaccine death numbers are just for the US otherwise the percentage drops even further...) [1] https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/ https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-glo... [2] https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/breakthrough-infections-do-not-mean-covid-vaccines-are-failing/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/breakthrough-infe...
- amanaplanacanal 5y ago
  Aren't those deaths after vaccine, rather than deaths caused by vaccine?

floatingatoll 5y ago

The paper authors note that, statistically, the prevalence of this non-fatal side effect is very small, relative to the sometimes-fatal disease they're being vaccinated against: > It is estimated that COVID-19 vaccination in males aged 12 to 29 years can prevent 11000 COVID-19 cases, 560 hospitalizations, 138 intensive care unit admissions, and 6 deaths compared with 39 to 47 expected myocarditis cases.

crmrc114 5y ago
Thank you for the b.l.u.f.- I think reading the vaccine inserts and freaking out is a bit like looking at the MSDS for your household cleaners and having a panic attack. As soon as my kids are old enough they are getting the shot just like the wife and I- better than the death I have seen in my area from this delta variant. Our city had a 8 year old who had to get a heart transplant locally due to delta.
- sieabah 5y ago
  > Our city had a 8 year old who had to get a heart transplant locally due to delta. Could it be possible he had to get a heart transplant because of potential Myocarditis...?
  - amazingman 5y ago
    No, since the child is 8.
- sumosudo 5y ago
  Myocarditis. Rare enough to find it ways onto the fact sheet. https://www.fda.gov/media/144413/download https://www.fda.gov/media/144413/download -- The CDC has published clinical considerations relevant to myocarditis and pericarditis associated with administration of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine (https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/clinicalconsiderations/myocarditis.html https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/clinicalconsiderations...). As for the vaccine insert. There isn't one. Please find it, and not just the fact sheet that's being offered. I'll save you some time and tell you why you can't find it. Clinical trial practitioners don't need to place inserts in packages for trials or EUA. Its called double blind. And anyone taking this is in the trials. If the FDA approves this poison, you can be sure that that is intentional genocide.

newbamboo 5y ago

Dr John Campbell made a good point recently. The vaccine is supposed to be intramuscular but nobody outside of South Africa is aspirating to know whether they hit a vein. If it goes into the blood stream that might explain the myocarditis and other vaccine injuries that are hard to explain given the supposedly local impact of the vaccines. Not a health care practitioner myself so it’s hard to know if this is a realistic concern. I know the nurse didn’t aspirate when I got my jabs. According to the WHO it’s controversial. Seems prudent to me.

blub 5y ago
I asked about this specifically in Germany and they told me that they do not aspirate any more. According to the German vaccine advisory body, it’s done to avoid patient discomfort. This was originally discussed in Denmark in relation to the AZ vaccine, where they mandated aspiration. In the end it didn’t matter, as they forbade AZ completely (and deservedly)