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> > Are you an lobbyist than? > No, […] So why are you talking like a typical right-wing lobbyist? > > Quite a distorted view on reality given all the survei

> > Are you an lobbyist than? > No, […] So why are you talking like a typical right-wing lobbyist? > > Quite a distorted view on reality given all the surveillance laws passed over the last few years… > Specifically, which one? > In Europe I mean. > I'm familiar with statewatch, they are a reliable source, but […] Anybody having a look at the statewatch website will instantly notice that your question doesn't makes any sense given that we're counting the latest surveillance laws by the dozens (maybe even by the hundreds by now), and that your claim to know the website seems dishonest therefore. Also you're trying to relativize that source by all what follows that "but"… > As a term of comparison: do you think people are more surveilled in Europe or in the United States? Why do you try to derail this conversation? I'm surely not baiting into whataboutism… https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque The rest of that question is even loaded with a whole battalion of subtle attempts to completely derail that thread. Nice rhetoric for someone who's not professional in that field. ;-)

peoplefromibiza 5y ago
I am vouching for your comment because I think you made fair criticism and I don't wanna let no stone unturned. I am a programmer, I don't work in politics, never had, never will. I have no horse in the race. Honest to the god(s) that you might or might not believe in. It's simply not what I am good at. I just attended informal meetings with people working for EU institutions, it's not uncommon in Brussels, I met many more when I was working in the music concert industry, we shared few drinks and talked about the bands that played that night, not all the people working in EU institutions lobby, but the elected representatives usually do. It's simply how things are. I also have a few with people working for the UN in Rome, where I was born and live. They enjoy a pint the same way I do, we happen to live in the same neighborhood, there's nothing fishy about it, believe me. I have no chances of becoming the next Kofi Annan.

peoplefromibiza 5y ago

I am vouching for your comment because I think you made fair criticism and I don't wanna let no stone unturned. I am a programmer, I don't work in politics, never had, never will. I have no horse in the race. Honest to the god(s) that you might or might not believe in. It's simply not what I am good at. I just attended informal meetings with people working for EU institutions, it's not uncommon in Brussels, I met many more when I was working in the music concert industry, we shared few drinks and talked about the bands that played that night, not all the people working in EU institutions lobby, but the elected representatives usually do. It's simply how things are. I also have a few with people working for the UN in Rome, where I was born and live. They enjoy a pint the same way I do, we happen to live in the same neighborhood, there's nothing fishy about it, believe me. I have no chances of becoming the next Kofi Annan.