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I understand that Apple isn’t directly responsible for this policy and a contracted firm is primarily responsible. However, this press couldn’t have came at a w
by cebert 5y ago
I understand that Apple isn’t directly responsible for this policy and a contracted firm is primarily responsible. However, this press couldn’t have came at a worse time when Apple is also facing negative PR resulting from their announcement of expanded protections for children.
- smoldesu 5y agoFor what it's worth, Apple is a very deliberate company with immense control over their supply chain. Surveillance could very well be their internal MO, we have no way to hold them accountable in that regard. Considering how they want to generate low-resolution hashes of your content on-device before it's shipped off to their servers... yeah, I can see the two aligning. It's part of a larger, internal push to increase liability and weed out "bad actors"
- samename 5y agoYeah, for a company like Apple, I would hold them responsible for the contractors actions here. Apple could easily replace them if they wanted to.
- pc86 5y ago"negative PR resulting from...expanded protections for children" is an insanely generous paraphrasing of what actually happened...
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- xanaxagoras 5y agoAgreed, we should stop ceding the language we use to describe this betrayal of trust to Apple’s idiot marketing division. These aren’t child safety features. By the time CSAM has been produced the child has already been harmed. Also pedophiles, may they be tortured barbarically and may their barbaric torture be televised by mandate on all those little TV screens that squawk at us while we’re getting gas until every last one of them is too scared to ever go near another child again, will simply turn off iCloud photos, or iCloud, or whatever 3rd parties Apple will let in on the surveillance. This will not help keep a single child safe. It’s not a child safety feature, it’s an adult surveillance feature.
- shadilay 5y agoWell said. If Apple wanted to keep children safe they would fund investigations into allegations of child abuse.
- kalleboo 5y ago> will simply turn off iCloud photos, or iCloud, or whatever 3rd parties Apple will let in on the surveillance I mean apparently they're already uploading photos to Facebook of all places and getting caught there, so you may be overestimating how smart they are.
- Dylan16807 5y agoNormally the conflation isn't a big deal, but if you're going to be that vitriolic, I'm going to please ask you to say "child abuser" and not "pedophile". What pedophiles need is therapy and possibly monitoring.
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- xanaxagoras 5y agoIs there data on how effective therapy is for pedophiles? Intuitively I'd expect it enjoys the same 0% efficacy rate as gay conversion therapy.
- Dylan16807 5y agoLots of people have bad impulses that they need to control and therapy helps there doesn't it? The goal wouldn't be the same as conversion.
- xanaxagoras 5y agoIt's at least similar. Gay conversion aims for 3 things as far as I can tell: 1) Stop acting on your current sexual feelings 2) Stop having those feelings 3) Start feeling different sexual feelings somehow, but probably not At the very least the first step is the same, and equally unlikely to happen. I don't know what the current status is with castration or chemical castration for pedophiles but I wholeheartedly support it. I don't really care if they get the help they need, I don't care about them or their dignity or humanity at all. I only care that they don't rape children.
- hungryforcodes 5y agoSorry, you mean spying on everyone?
- Lammy 5y ago*better time
- petre 5y agoThey are responsible as long as they have a contract with that company. Otherwise it's denying responsability by using contractors.
- jgaa 5y agoYou mean the mandatory Personal Informant app that Stasi left on it's wish list?