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“Who controls the food supply controls the people; who controls the energy can control whole continents; who controls money can control the world” — Henry Kissi

“Who controls the food supply controls the people; who controls the energy can control whole continents; who controls money can control the world” — Henry Kissinger

eplanit 5y ago
Saying harsh but true things makes him a war criminal?
- refulgentis 5y ago
  No
- typeformer 5y ago
  No, masterminding the illegal bombing of two countries (Loas and Cambodia during the Vietnam/American War) with horrendous long term outcomes for the civilian population and also plotting coups and unconditional support for brutal dictatorships that kill their own citizens with impunity makes you one.
  - eplanit 5y ago
    Yes Vietnam was a shitshow -- but it was Nixon who was the chief executive who decided what to do. I have no love for Kissinger, but his job was giving advice (no matter how cold) on how to win the absurd war. My point is, of all the players in that saga, Kissinger seems to get a greater portion of disdain.
    - cwkoss 5y ago
      Kissinger gets more disdain because, unlike Nixon, much of the political establishment continues to treat him as a national hero.
- ragona 5y ago
  His direct involvement in an atrocity-filled period of US foreign policy is what gets him called a war criminal, not his pithy quotes.
panarky 5y ago
I can't find evidence that he said this. Do you have a source?
- eesmith 5y ago
  Nor can I. Publications either fail to reference their source, or give secondary references, or give incorrect references. For an example of the last, https://ccp.org.au/content/2-exhibitions/1-all/0-fertile-ground/fertile-ground_dr-jen-rae.pdf https://ccp.org.au/content/2-exhibitions/1-all/0-fertile-gro... cites "Kissinger, H., National Security Council. (1974). The Kissinger Report: NSSM-200 Implications of Worldwide Population Growth for U.S. Security Interests", but I could not find that quote in https://pdf.usaid.gov/pdf_docs/PCAAB500.pdf https://pdf.usaid.gov/pdf_docs/PCAAB500.pdf . I looked at that one because Google Scholar says that "Fertile Ground" document I linked to is from 1992. Internal evidence shows it's no older than 2019. The oldest actual mention in Google Scholar is from 2006 at http://www.libertydollar.org/news-stories/pdfs/1161050727.pdf http://www.libertydollar.org/news-stories/pdfs/1161050727.pd... , without attribution. Note that https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/global-research/ https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/global-research/ refers to the organization as 'a Canadian conspiracy website'. In 2007 there are a few more citations, like http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.532.8477&rep=rep1&type=pdf http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.532... . That in turn cites WikiQuote. WikiQuote currently has that quote in the Talk page under "None of these quotes should be reinstated in the article unless a source is found." I looked at the next few years of publications which use that quote. None give a primary reference or even provide a citation. This pattern strongly suggests that Kissinger did not say it. Clearly it must have been Lincoln or Churchill. /s

“Who controls the food supply controls the people; who controls the energy can control whole continents; who controls money can control the world” — Henry Kissinger

eplanit 5y ago

Saying harsh but true things makes him a war criminal?

refulgentis 5y ago
No
typeformer 5y ago
No, masterminding the illegal bombing of two countries (Loas and Cambodia during the Vietnam/American War) with horrendous long term outcomes for the civilian population and also plotting coups and unconditional support for brutal dictatorships that kill their own citizens with impunity makes you one.
- eplanit 5y ago
  Yes Vietnam was a shitshow -- but it was Nixon who was the chief executive who decided what to do. I have no love for Kissinger, but his job was giving advice (no matter how cold) on how to win the absurd war. My point is, of all the players in that saga, Kissinger seems to get a greater portion of disdain.
  - cwkoss 5y ago
    Kissinger gets more disdain because, unlike Nixon, much of the political establishment continues to treat him as a national hero.
ragona 5y ago
His direct involvement in an atrocity-filled period of US foreign policy is what gets him called a war criminal, not his pithy quotes.

panarky 5y ago

I can't find evidence that he said this. Do you have a source?

eesmith 5y ago
Nor can I. Publications either fail to reference their source, or give secondary references, or give incorrect references. For an example of the last, https://ccp.org.au/content/2-exhibitions/1-all/0-fertile-ground/fertile-ground_dr-jen-rae.pdf https://ccp.org.au/content/2-exhibitions/1-all/0-fertile-gro... cites "Kissinger, H., National Security Council. (1974). The Kissinger Report: NSSM-200 Implications of Worldwide Population Growth for U.S. Security Interests", but I could not find that quote in https://pdf.usaid.gov/pdf_docs/PCAAB500.pdf https://pdf.usaid.gov/pdf_docs/PCAAB500.pdf . I looked at that one because Google Scholar says that "Fertile Ground" document I linked to is from 1992. Internal evidence shows it's no older than 2019. The oldest actual mention in Google Scholar is from 2006 at http://www.libertydollar.org/news-stories/pdfs/1161050727.pdf http://www.libertydollar.org/news-stories/pdfs/1161050727.pd... , without attribution. Note that https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/global-research/ https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/global-research/ refers to the organization as 'a Canadian conspiracy website'. In 2007 there are a few more citations, like http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.532.8477&rep=rep1&type=pdf http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.532... . That in turn cites WikiQuote. WikiQuote currently has that quote in the Talk page under "None of these quotes should be reinstated in the article unless a source is found." I looked at the next few years of publications which use that quote. None give a primary reference or even provide a citation. This pattern strongly suggests that Kissinger did not say it. Clearly it must have been Lincoln or Churchill. /s