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This is the video by the daughter of the founder of the Russian School of Math. We sent our son there over the summer, he enjoyed it and all the kids were prett

This is the video by the daughter of the founder of the Russian School of Math. We sent our son there over the summer, he enjoyed it and all the kids were pretty advanced in the class. California seems to want to hold everyone back in the name of equity. But that will force more people into the private school system, which is exactly what we did. I don’t trust the California government to have my children’s best interest at heart, I think they want to hamstring them in the name of equity. https://www.ted.com/talks/masha_gershman_how_math_can_prepare_new_generations_for_the_future/up-next https://www.ted.com/talks/masha_gershman_how_math_can_prepar...

MrBuddyCasino 5y ago
Oregon governor Kate Brown has signed a law that allows students to graduate without proving they can read, write or do math. The law had overwhelming Democrat support & is justified on the basis that it will benefit non-white students. https://thepostmillennial.com/oregon-governor-signs-new-law-allowing-students-to-graduate-without-proving-they-can-read-write-or-do-math https://thepostmillennial.com/oregon-governor-signs-new-law-...
- jjgreen 5y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Post_Millennial https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Post_Millennial
  - kwere 5y ago
    this is an ad hominem argument
    - jjgreen 5y ago
      It is not an argument, it is a link to a Wikipedia page.
      - fsn4dN69ey 5y ago
        Why did you post it?
    - voldacar 5y ago
      the genetic fallacy actually, to be pedantic
- ymolodtsov 5y ago
  Not sure how exactly the lack of these skills could benefit anyone. I understand that the lack of a school diploma is a huge drag in life and that can primarily affect people from disadvantaged backgrounds, but shouldn't they focus on improving the way they teach kids instead?
  - markus_zhang 5y ago
    As Sir Humphrey said, education policies are not for children and parents, but for teachers.
  - JohnWhigham 5y ago
    That would require skilled politicians that knew what they were doing.
  - snicker7 5y ago
    > Not sure how exactly the lack of these skills could benefit anyone. Lower the standards across all levels -- high school graduation, college admissions, job placements. Eventually we end up with surgeons and lawyers that are illiterate. But at least it is equitable!
- nickloewen 5y ago
  The Post Millennial story on this is quite light on details. Here’s another article with more: https://katu.com/news/local/oregon-legislature-passes-bill-to-suspend-graduation-testing-requirement https://katu.com/news/local/oregon-legislature-passes-bill-t... And here’s the text of the bill (PDF): https://olis.oregonlegislature.gov/liz/2021R1/Downloads/MeasureDocument/SB744/Introduced https://olis.oregonlegislature.gov/liz/2021R1/Downloads/Meas... And here’s the Department of Education’s page on the Essential Skills Graduation Requirement: https://www.oregon.gov/ode/educator-resources/essentialskills/Pages/default.aspx https://www.oregon.gov/ode/educator-resources/essentialskill... Key points from my quick read: This is about suspending mandatory testing prior to graduation. They did that last year due to virtual learning, and are extending the suspension longer while things get back to normal, and while they assess whether the approach to testing they have is suitable (and in line with what other states are doing). It is not (yet) gone forever, just for a couple years. And you still have to pass courses in all of those subject orders in order to graduate.
  - iammisc 5y ago
    How is your interpretation any better than the editorialized 'brown drops education requirements'. The pandemic is no excuse to lower standards. It short changes these kids. If anything, public schooling should be extended as an option for those above 18 to freely learn what they missed. This is an immense loss for these children. The last two years of High school are extremelyy important.
markus_zhang 5y ago
Essentially large part of education falls onto the shoulder of parents, which is natural. I'm even preparing to sharpen up my Math/Physics/Electronics skills for the future. Time to re-learn those things that I mostly forgot!
- damagednoob 5y ago
  > Essentially large part of education falls onto the shoulder of parents, which is natural. Have to disagree. A parent can't be simultaneously up to speed on Math, English, a 2nd language, Biology, Science, History or any of the other subjects that a child will learn in school School is meant to teach, parents are meant to socialise. Unfortunately that seems to have been swapped around somewhere along the line.
  - markus_zhang 5y ago
    I mean it's impossible to master everything but to find something that motivates the kid and keep him focused is largely parent's work. It's really difficult to ask too much from the public education system nowadays :(
  - pbhjpbhj 5y ago
    In the UK, by law (Education Act), parents are responsible for educating their children - this has slipped considerably, I wish it were still a central ideal : under such a regime schools should be a service that parents can use to educate their children. I'd like to, for example, use school for some things, other groups for others, and home schooling for other things (essentially Flexischooling). This is in theory an option in the UK, but it's left to individual headteachers to dictate their ideals to parents (regardless of the Edu.Act) so you have to be lucky to get a headteacher who supports your chosen pedagogy.
  - MattGaiser 5y ago
    You need to be up on them to the level of a grade school student. That isn't a high level.
    - 5y ago

MrBuddyCasino 5y ago

Oregon governor Kate Brown has signed a law that allows students to graduate without proving they can read, write or do math. The law had overwhelming Democrat support & is justified on the basis that it will benefit non-white students. https://thepostmillennial.com/oregon-governor-signs-new-law-allowing-students-to-graduate-without-proving-they-can-read-write-or-do-math https://thepostmillennial.com/oregon-governor-signs-new-law-...

jjgreen 5y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Post_Millennial https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Post_Millennial
- kwere 5y ago
  this is an ad hominem argument
  - jjgreen 5y ago
    It is not an argument, it is a link to a Wikipedia page.
    - fsn4dN69ey 5y ago
      Why did you post it?
  - voldacar 5y ago
    the genetic fallacy actually, to be pedantic
ymolodtsov 5y ago
Not sure how exactly the lack of these skills could benefit anyone. I understand that the lack of a school diploma is a huge drag in life and that can primarily affect people from disadvantaged backgrounds, but shouldn't they focus on improving the way they teach kids instead?
- markus_zhang 5y ago
  As Sir Humphrey said, education policies are not for children and parents, but for teachers.
- JohnWhigham 5y ago
  That would require skilled politicians that knew what they were doing.
- snicker7 5y ago
  > Not sure how exactly the lack of these skills could benefit anyone. Lower the standards across all levels -- high school graduation, college admissions, job placements. Eventually we end up with surgeons and lawyers that are illiterate. But at least it is equitable!
nickloewen 5y ago
The Post Millennial story on this is quite light on details. Here’s another article with more: https://katu.com/news/local/oregon-legislature-passes-bill-to-suspend-graduation-testing-requirement https://katu.com/news/local/oregon-legislature-passes-bill-t... And here’s the text of the bill (PDF): https://olis.oregonlegislature.gov/liz/2021R1/Downloads/MeasureDocument/SB744/Introduced https://olis.oregonlegislature.gov/liz/2021R1/Downloads/Meas... And here’s the Department of Education’s page on the Essential Skills Graduation Requirement: https://www.oregon.gov/ode/educator-resources/essentialskills/Pages/default.aspx https://www.oregon.gov/ode/educator-resources/essentialskill... Key points from my quick read: This is about suspending mandatory testing prior to graduation. They did that last year due to virtual learning, and are extending the suspension longer while things get back to normal, and while they assess whether the approach to testing they have is suitable (and in line with what other states are doing). It is not (yet) gone forever, just for a couple years. And you still have to pass courses in all of those subject orders in order to graduate.
- iammisc 5y ago
  How is your interpretation any better than the editorialized 'brown drops education requirements'. The pandemic is no excuse to lower standards. It short changes these kids. If anything, public schooling should be extended as an option for those above 18 to freely learn what they missed. This is an immense loss for these children. The last two years of High school are extremelyy important.

markus_zhang 5y ago

Essentially large part of education falls onto the shoulder of parents, which is natural. I'm even preparing to sharpen up my Math/Physics/Electronics skills for the future. Time to re-learn those things that I mostly forgot!

damagednoob 5y ago
> Essentially large part of education falls onto the shoulder of parents, which is natural. Have to disagree. A parent can't be simultaneously up to speed on Math, English, a 2nd language, Biology, Science, History or any of the other subjects that a child will learn in school School is meant to teach, parents are meant to socialise. Unfortunately that seems to have been swapped around somewhere along the line.
- markus_zhang 5y ago
  I mean it's impossible to master everything but to find something that motivates the kid and keep him focused is largely parent's work. It's really difficult to ask too much from the public education system nowadays :(
- pbhjpbhj 5y ago
  In the UK, by law (Education Act), parents are responsible for educating their children - this has slipped considerably, I wish it were still a central ideal : under such a regime schools should be a service that parents can use to educate their children. I'd like to, for example, use school for some things, other groups for others, and home schooling for other things (essentially Flexischooling). This is in theory an option in the UK, but it's left to individual headteachers to dictate their ideals to parents (regardless of the Edu.Act) so you have to be lucky to get a headteacher who supports your chosen pedagogy.
- MattGaiser 5y ago
  You need to be up on them to the level of a grade school student. That isn't a high level.
  - 5y ago