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Launch HN: Financial Choice (YC S21) – Checking accounts with market returns
Hi HN, we are Stefan and Konstantin, co-founders of Financial Choice (https://financialchoice.com https://financialchoice.com). We offer a checking account alternative that lets users invest their balance (not FDIC insured), otherwise it works like a normal checking account.
Our background is in computer science (we’re ex-Googlers), but we also love modern portfolio theory, and long-term investment in low-cost, broadly diversified index funds (we’re big Bogleheads fans). Annoyed by our checking account’s low returns, we asked ourselves if there was a way to invest our checking account balances, but still keep the checking account features.
Financial Choice (FC) is our answer. When a user deposits money with FC, like a paycheck, FC automatically invests that money according to our user’s investment preference. When a user withdraws money, e.g. for rent/mortgage or at the ATM, they get money instantly, while FC automatically triggers a sale of their investments to cover the withdrawal. In many cases, investments sell in time to directly cover the withdrawal, while other times, the withdrawal is made on margin until the investments’ sale completes.
Users choose what they want to invest in based on what risk they are comfortable with. Many invest in stock index funds (e.g. S&P500 with 10.3% average annual return, -43.1% worst year [1]). Some users invest in bond index funds (e.g. 6.1% average annual return, -8.1% worst year [1]). Some choose socially responsible investments. Those with the lowest risk tolerance invest in US treasuries.
On a macroeconomic scale, we believe that our approach can solve major problems of the current banking system. Today, banks invest customers' deposits and keep the returns mostly for themselves (the national average interest rate is just 0.03% [2]). When there are losses, FDIC guarantees that customer deposits never lose money, but when the losses become significant enough (like they did in 2008 [3]), the taxpayer ends up paying with bailouts. With FC, users invest their money directly, so returns are transparent and there’s no need for bailouts.
Beyond giving people a choice, there’s also a couple other cool features that we’re excited about. Naturally there are funds flowing in and out of a checking account (paycheck, rent, bills, etc), and we can use these to automatically rebalance a portfolio. Similarly, we can optimize our users’ tax burden by being smart about which investments get sold and performing tax-loss harvesting.
Financial Choice is currently free to use and available in the US. We build on top of Fidelity that provides all checking and investing features. Building on top of an existing financial institution has been hugely helpful to get a full-featured product to our customers quickly (but it does mean that users have to share their credentials with us, similar to Plaid).
We’d love for you to try it out (sign up at https://financialchoice.com/signup https://financialchoice.com/signup), and give us feedback. We would also love to hear what you do with your checking account balance, and what you think the major problems with today’s banking system are (and how they can be fixed).
[1] https://investor.vanguard.com/investing/how-to-invest/model-portfolio-allocation https://investor.vanguard.com/investing/how-to-invest/model-...
[2] https://www.fdic.gov/regulations/resources/rates/historical/2021-03-29.html https://www.fdic.gov/regulations/resources/rates/historical/...
[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_crisis_of_2007%E2%80%932008 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_crisis_of_2007%E2%80...
- Bostonian 5y agoIf you have $3000 rent due, you can keep $3000 in checking to pay that, but you should not put that money in the stock market, since it could be worth only $2700 at the due date. Therefore I think the statement "We offer a checking account alternative that lets users invest their balance (not FDIC insured), otherwise it works just like a normal checking account" invites trouble. People should use checking accounts primarily to pay bills, so risky investments do not belong in them.
- allendoerfer 5y agoIf you are really aggressive, you only need to keep money in your checking account between your payday and the due dates of your rent, utility etc. Everything else can be invested instantly on your payday. If that amount of money is significant to you and you think you are missing out, you should stay away from the stock market. You are basically on the verge of bankruptcy, especially if you live in a country without proper social security (e.g. the US). I like the idea if you are saving for something you do not really need, e.g. your second yearly vacation or some vehicle.
- konne88 5y agoThanks for highlighting that the investments can lose significant money, and that this is something to watch out for! Completely agree here. I do think that there is subtly around risky investments not belonging in a checking account. I agree that if you are in a situation where you live paycheck to paycheck you would only want to invest in very low risk assets (say US treasuries). That said, if you have some money saved up, you can invest your checking account balance more aggressively and still stay liquid even in really bad downturns.
- Bostonian 5y agoNitpick, but "US treasuries" include long-term bonds, which can fall substantially in value if interest rates rise. So low-risk short-term assets are confined to things such as Treasury bills with duration less than 1 year.