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Yes, that turns down to be the question of how to get a trustworthy VPN provider. Even if you run your own on a cloud then same question with VPS provider. The

• bawolff 5y ago
  The argument for tor is try and distribute the nodes between countries that hate each other: if russia is doing half the survelience and usa the other half, they'll be unlikely to coorporate just to catch you. Whether that's a reasonable thing to believe in is a good question. I trust that more than most sketchy VPN providers, but that's a low bar.
  • pbhjpbhj 5y ago
    Seems like traffic from a VPN hosted in a foreign hostile power to a local VPN is exactly the sort of thing that one would investigate?
    • bawolff 5y ago
      You need at least 3 layers before the adversary would have to passively surveil multiple points in order to surveil you, afaik