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You should do a little research, we're taking about natural gas not gasoline. The supply, demand and price are only loosely connected and nobody drives an F350

by winphone1974 5y ago

You should do a little research, we're taking about natural gas not gasoline. The supply, demand and price are only loosely connected and nobody drives an F350 powered by natural gas. Natural gas predominately displaces coal, so you must really hate the earth.

jacquesm 5y ago
> nobody drives an F350 powered by natural gas https://www.fleetequipmentmag.com/fords-cng-propane-trucks/ https://www.fleetequipmentmag.com/fords-cng-propane-trucks/
- throwaway0a5e 5y ago
  Statistically nobody, literally nobody, potato, potato.
  - jacquesm 5y ago
    And ... you're wrong. In retail the majority is gasoline and diesel for the really heavy applications, but fleets of carbon emissions conscious companies buy the LNG version. In total some 50 K over the last decade. Maybe that's statistically nobody to you but it's a lot more than zero and besides that you're engaging in goal post moving. Same with other classes of vehicles such as VW vans in the passenger version, the 'normal' ones are all diesel, the fleet version tends to be bi-fuel with a relatively small petrol engine and an LNG underbody tank system. This is a popular solution for taxi fleets in Europe. And as diesel is coming more and more under scrutiny you can expect the LNG/CNG version of these cars to gain in popularity.
    - throwaway0a5e 5y ago
      >but fleets of carbon emissions conscious companies buy the LNG version A rounding error compared to all the other trucks/vans/commercial vehicles. Go look for CNG vehicles from pickups and airport vans on up to heavy trucks on the heavy equipment section of CL and machinery trader. You will see how few and far between they are.
    - kortilla 5y ago
      > In total some 50 K over the last decade. Sorry man, but that’s nobody. 5k trucks a year is meaningless when we’re talking about how natural gas prices will effect behaviors.
gbrown 5y ago
No need to be condescending, I know the difference between natural gas and gasoline. My point was more general about carbon based fuels and their price to consumers.

jacquesm 5y ago

> nobody drives an F350 powered by natural gas https://www.fleetequipmentmag.com/fords-cng-propane-trucks/ https://www.fleetequipmentmag.com/fords-cng-propane-trucks/

throwaway0a5e 5y ago
Statistically nobody, literally nobody, potato, potato.
- jacquesm 5y ago
  And ... you're wrong. In retail the majority is gasoline and diesel for the really heavy applications, but fleets of carbon emissions conscious companies buy the LNG version. In total some 50 K over the last decade. Maybe that's statistically nobody to you but it's a lot more than zero and besides that you're engaging in goal post moving. Same with other classes of vehicles such as VW vans in the passenger version, the 'normal' ones are all diesel, the fleet version tends to be bi-fuel with a relatively small petrol engine and an LNG underbody tank system. This is a popular solution for taxi fleets in Europe. And as diesel is coming more and more under scrutiny you can expect the LNG/CNG version of these cars to gain in popularity.
  - throwaway0a5e 5y ago
    >but fleets of carbon emissions conscious companies buy the LNG version A rounding error compared to all the other trucks/vans/commercial vehicles. Go look for CNG vehicles from pickups and airport vans on up to heavy trucks on the heavy equipment section of CL and machinery trader. You will see how few and far between they are.
  - kortilla 5y ago
    > In total some 50 K over the last decade. Sorry man, but that’s nobody. 5k trucks a year is meaningless when we’re talking about how natural gas prices will effect behaviors.

gbrown 5y ago

No need to be condescending, I know the difference between natural gas and gasoline. My point was more general about carbon based fuels and their price to consumers.