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What cloud service are you putting your images on? I would be shocked if google photos hasn’t already been doing this.

sschueller 5y ago
Cloud services doing this isn't the problem and they are already doing it. The problem is your device doing this. Imagine if your Tesla reported back to Tesla who was in your car and sent that to the authorities if they thought someone in your car was "illegal".
- pmlnr 5y ago
  You honestly can't know if it does that already or not.
- EtienneK 5y ago
  Coming in the not-so-far-future.
- polishdude20 5y ago
  Actually Tesla's do client side machine learning. When tesla needs training data of a bike for example, they can remotely "query" all the cars on the road and have the cars do client side detection of the stored footage and driving data and send over only the data that contains bikes.
feanaro 5y ago
Why do you need to put your images on a cloud service at all? Just use a spare disk.
- cft 5y ago
  It's just a matter of time till they start scanning all image files on the SSD. Then documents (country-specific probably)
- foxpurple 5y ago
  I’m saying it because apple is scanning iCloud photos here. Unless I am mistaken, local only photos are not scanned.
pmlnr 5y ago
You don't need the cloud: syncthing can sync your phone and your computer together without any issues. No nasty cloud provider involved: https://syncthing.net/ https://syncthing.net/
- Haemm0r 5y ago
  You can even sync to $nasty_cloud_provider and don't provide the syncthing password. Problem solved!
  - pmlnr 5y ago
    What? Syncthing is not a backup program, it, as the name suggests, syncs folders and files. There is no password involved.
    - Haemm0r 5y ago
      Check out: https://docs.syncthing.net/branch/untrusted/html/users/untrusted.html https://docs.syncthing.net/branch/untrusted/html/users/untru...
    - ronyclau 5y ago
      Syncthing now supports untrusted device sync[0] (i.e. storing an encrypted copy on an untrusted device) in a recent version, though this is still on beta. [0]: https://docs.syncthing.net/users/untrusted.html https://docs.syncthing.net/users/untrusted.html
- polack 5y ago
  Looks like Syncthing doesn’t have support/client for iOS though?
  - fouc 5y ago
    There may be 3rd party apps like https://www.mobiussync.com https://www.mobiussync.com
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summm 5y ago
Cloud is other people's computers. So, get your own server, or use someone's you trust. or use e2e encryption.
- seanp2k2 5y ago
  That would be great if I could run an iCloud back-end on my home servers. Unfortunately, I can’t, and no software other than iCloud can do what iCloud does on iOS due to Apple’s usage of private iOS APIs to accomplish things like persistent background sync or syncing parts of the OS which would be required to do a full device restore that aren’t accessible to user space apps.

Cloud services doing this isn't the problem and they are already doing it. The problem is your device doing this. Imagine if your Tesla reported back to Tesla who was in your car and sent that to the authorities if they thought someone in your car was "illegal".

pmlnr 5y ago
You honestly can't know if it does that already or not.
EtienneK 5y ago
Coming in the not-so-far-future.
polishdude20 5y ago
Actually Tesla's do client side machine learning. When tesla needs training data of a bike for example, they can remotely "query" all the cars on the road and have the cars do client side detection of the stored footage and driving data and send over only the data that contains bikes.

feanaro 5y ago

Why do you need to put your images on a cloud service at all? Just use a spare disk.

cft 5y ago
It's just a matter of time till they start scanning all image files on the SSD. Then documents (country-specific probably)
foxpurple 5y ago
I’m saying it because apple is scanning iCloud photos here. Unless I am mistaken, local only photos are not scanned.

pmlnr 5y ago

You don't need the cloud: syncthing can sync your phone and your computer together without any issues. No nasty cloud provider involved: https://syncthing.net/ https://syncthing.net/

Haemm0r 5y ago
You can even sync to $nasty_cloud_provider and don't provide the syncthing password. Problem solved!
- pmlnr 5y ago
  What? Syncthing is not a backup program, it, as the name suggests, syncs folders and files. There is no password involved.
  - Haemm0r 5y ago
    Check out: https://docs.syncthing.net/branch/untrusted/html/users/untrusted.html https://docs.syncthing.net/branch/untrusted/html/users/untru...
  - ronyclau 5y ago
    Syncthing now supports untrusted device sync[0] (i.e. storing an encrypted copy on an untrusted device) in a recent version, though this is still on beta. [0]: https://docs.syncthing.net/users/untrusted.html https://docs.syncthing.net/users/untrusted.html
polack 5y ago
Looks like Syncthing doesn’t have support/client for iOS though?
- fouc 5y ago
  There may be 3rd party apps like https://www.mobiussync.com https://www.mobiussync.com

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summm 5y ago

Cloud is other people's computers. So, get your own server, or use someone's you trust. or use e2e encryption.

seanp2k2 5y ago
That would be great if I could run an iCloud back-end on my home servers. Unfortunately, I can’t, and no software other than iCloud can do what iCloud does on iOS due to Apple’s usage of private iOS APIs to accomplish things like persistent background sync or syncing parts of the OS which would be required to do a full device restore that aren’t accessible to user space apps.