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… create powderkegs of old, unhealthy, and highly flammable forests is not news. It's been known for decades. It just wasn't something that fit into pop culture

by ip26 5y ago

… create powderkegs of old, unhealthy, and highly flammable forests is not news. It's been known for decades. It just wasn't something that fit into pop culture narratives, so we've let things get worse and worse. I’ve concluded it’s actually more like NIMBY ism and willful ignorance. Nobody wants controlled burns in their backyard, and many don’t want to maintain defensible space. So everyone joins together to create this shared illusion that they can manage the land and their property however they want AND never suffer the consequences.

bullfightonmars 5y ago
This is exactly it. Pop culture does not set policy. The current forestry management regieme around preventing forest fires was put in place to protect forests as an agricultural asset and resource for the timber industry. That practice has morphed into a protection of real estate as people have built their homes in the wildfire zone over the past 40 years. Prior to colonozation by Europeans in the Pacific Northwest, native americans regularly burned forests regularly. That practice stopped once their populations were decimated by disease and subjugation.
- spfzero 5y ago
  It did not require native Americans, lighting could do it just fine. What was the thinking of these native Americans you speak of? Were they thinking "we should start wildfires because it will be better for the forest over a period of centuries"? Because...? I agree that the practice of trying to stop these fires results in larger fires later. What I'd like is more information on why native Americans were able to realize and act on this. I'm willing to believe it, but not without some explanation.
  - shawabawa3 5y ago
    There's a Wikipedia page on it https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_use_of_fire_in_ecosystems https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_use_of_fire_...

by ip26 5y ago

bullfightonmars 5y ago

This is exactly it. Pop culture does not set policy. The current forestry management regieme around preventing forest fires was put in place to protect forests as an agricultural asset and resource for the timber industry. That practice has morphed into a protection of real estate as people have built their homes in the wildfire zone over the past 40 years. Prior to colonozation by Europeans in the Pacific Northwest, native americans regularly burned forests regularly. That practice stopped once their populations were decimated by disease and subjugation.

spfzero 5y ago
It did not require native Americans, lighting could do it just fine. What was the thinking of these native Americans you speak of? Were they thinking "we should start wildfires because it will be better for the forest over a period of centuries"? Because...? I agree that the practice of trying to stop these fires results in larger fires later. What I'd like is more information on why native Americans were able to realize and act on this. I'm willing to believe it, but not without some explanation.
- shawabawa3 5y ago
  There's a Wikipedia page on it https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_use_of_fire_in_ecosystems https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_use_of_fire_...