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Don't forget the 40,000 ventilators he demanded for his state (a claim he said was based on science and data no less).

by balozi 5y ago

tomschlick 5y ago
He then also criticized the Trump admin for not giving him that number even though they were giving him thousands already. 40k new ventilators didn't even exist at the time, there is no warehouse with tens of thousands of them, they were being built and distributed nationwide; but the media ate it up because orange man bad.
- tw04 5y ago
  So you're talking about back in March of 2020 - when we did think ventilators would help. And at that point the federal government had sent a grand total of 400 ventilators to New York. But somehow managed to find 200 to send to Russia in May. And you can't figure out why he was complaining? https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/489214-cuomo-says-ny-needs-30000-ventilators-pleads-with-feds-for-help https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/489214-cuomo-says-n... https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/20/us-sends-200-ventilators-to-russia-as-coronavirus-crisis-deepens.html https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/20/us-sends-200-ventilators-to-...
  - tomschlick 5y ago
    > More than half the nearly 8,000 ventilators the federal stockpile sent to states to fight the coronavirus pandemic went to New York, while the rest were split among 14 other states and territories, a report from the federal government shows. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2020/04/10/rare-look-stockpile-shows-which-states-got-supplies-amid-covid/5126900002/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2020/04/1...
    - zo1 5y ago
      I don't mean to be hyperbolic or off-topic, but wow, if this specific thread is anything to go by, I don't think we can have a nice society at all. We're like monkeys throwing feces around at eachother and can't even agree, after the fact, as to who threw the first batch or whether it was justified. All while another separate set of monkeys (media), with their own agendas, tell the rest of us stories and interpretations of said feces throwing. Who am I to believe here? Where are the facts? Who is being punished and fired and impeached and imprisoned after we evaluate the facts? Were laws broken? Should there be laws against some of these things?
      - tomschlick 5y ago
        I think the culprit really is the clickbait, gotta get it out before someone else does, media. They seem to rarely fact check things anymore before pushing it out and when they are proven wrong retractions rarely happen. The lines between the democratic party and the media is definitely blurred, which isn't surprising as there are a lot of media execs who end up working for administrations for some time. It really is a worrying trend.
        tw04 5y ago
        >I think the culprit really is the clickbait, gotta get it out before someone else does, media. They seem to rarely fact check things anymore before pushing it out and when they are proven wrong retractions rarely happen. I think the culprit is people like yourself, who post a link to the government sending ventilators a month later, and pretending like it happened at the time New York was begging for them. What ACTUALLY happened was after 3 weeks of unending negative press, Trump finally caved and released ventilators. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/cuomo-knocks-trumps-claim-ny-ventilators/story?id=69790191 https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/cuomo-knocks-trumps-claim-ny... >"FEMA says, 'we're sending 400 ventilators.' Really? What am I going to do with 400 ventilators, when I need 30,000?" Cuomo said at a news conference. >Later, Trump announced he would supply another 4,000 ventilators to New York from the national stockpile, but he added a claim that Cuomo had turned down the chance to stock up on thousands of ventilators in 2015. >The lines between the democratic party and the media is definitely blurred, which isn't surprising as there are a lot of media execs who end up working for administrations for some time. It really is a worrying trend. I'm not even sure what to do with that. The Trump administration literally hired Fox News employees to be a part of the administration. Fox News was founded to be a propaganda wing for the Republican party to ensure that they could try to control the message the next time they were caught in a situation like Watergate. And your concern is the media and the democratic party? https://www.gawker.com/5814150/roger-ailes-secret-nixon-era-blueprint-for-fox-news https://www.gawker.com/5814150/roger-ailes-secret-nixon-era-...
  - garyfirestorm 5y ago
    Wasn’t NY the hardest hit back in March 2020. Literally bodies shoving in trucks?
    - tomschlick 5y ago
      Yes, which is why the federal government sent a ton of supplies (more than any other state by a large margin) and a hospital ship there: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2020/04/10/rare-look-stockpile-shows-which-states-got-supplies-amid-covid/5126900002/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2020/04/1...

Don't forget the 40,000 ventilators he demanded for his state (a claim he said was based on science and data no less).

by balozi 5y ago

Don't forget the 40,000 ventilators he demanded for his state (a claim he said was based on science and data no less).

He then also criticized the Trump admin for not giving him that number even though they were giving him thousands already. 40k new ventilators didn't even exist at the time, there is no warehouse with tens of thousands of them, they were being built and distributed nationwide; but the media ate it up because orange man bad.

tw04 5y ago
So you're talking about back in March of 2020 - when we did think ventilators would help. And at that point the federal government had sent a grand total of 400 ventilators to New York. But somehow managed to find 200 to send to Russia in May. And you can't figure out why he was complaining? https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/489214-cuomo-says-ny-needs-30000-ventilators-pleads-with-feds-for-help https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/489214-cuomo-says-n... https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/20/us-sends-200-ventilators-to-russia-as-coronavirus-crisis-deepens.html https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/20/us-sends-200-ventilators-to-...
- tomschlick 5y ago
  > More than half the nearly 8,000 ventilators the federal stockpile sent to states to fight the coronavirus pandemic went to New York, while the rest were split among 14 other states and territories, a report from the federal government shows. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2020/04/10/rare-look-stockpile-shows-which-states-got-supplies-amid-covid/5126900002/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2020/04/1...
  - zo1 5y ago
    I don't mean to be hyperbolic or off-topic, but wow, if this specific thread is anything to go by, I don't think we can have a nice society at all. We're like monkeys throwing feces around at eachother and can't even agree, after the fact, as to who threw the first batch or whether it was justified. All while another separate set of monkeys (media), with their own agendas, tell the rest of us stories and interpretations of said feces throwing. Who am I to believe here? Where are the facts? Who is being punished and fired and impeached and imprisoned after we evaluate the facts? Were laws broken? Should there be laws against some of these things?
    - tomschlick 5y ago
      I think the culprit really is the clickbait, gotta get it out before someone else does, media. They seem to rarely fact check things anymore before pushing it out and when they are proven wrong retractions rarely happen. The lines between the democratic party and the media is definitely blurred, which isn't surprising as there are a lot of media execs who end up working for administrations for some time. It really is a worrying trend.
      - tw04 5y ago
        >I think the culprit really is the clickbait, gotta get it out before someone else does, media. They seem to rarely fact check things anymore before pushing it out and when they are proven wrong retractions rarely happen. I think the culprit is people like yourself, who post a link to the government sending ventilators a month later, and pretending like it happened at the time New York was begging for them. What ACTUALLY happened was after 3 weeks of unending negative press, Trump finally caved and released ventilators. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/cuomo-knocks-trumps-claim-ny-ventilators/story?id=69790191 https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/cuomo-knocks-trumps-claim-ny... >"FEMA says, 'we're sending 400 ventilators.' Really? What am I going to do with 400 ventilators, when I need 30,000?" Cuomo said at a news conference. >Later, Trump announced he would supply another 4,000 ventilators to New York from the national stockpile, but he added a claim that Cuomo had turned down the chance to stock up on thousands of ventilators in 2015. >The lines between the democratic party and the media is definitely blurred, which isn't surprising as there are a lot of media execs who end up working for administrations for some time. It really is a worrying trend. I'm not even sure what to do with that. The Trump administration literally hired Fox News employees to be a part of the administration. Fox News was founded to be a propaganda wing for the Republican party to ensure that they could try to control the message the next time they were caught in a situation like Watergate. And your concern is the media and the democratic party? https://www.gawker.com/5814150/roger-ailes-secret-nixon-era-blueprint-for-fox-news https://www.gawker.com/5814150/roger-ailes-secret-nixon-era-...
- garyfirestorm 5y ago
  Wasn’t NY the hardest hit back in March 2020. Literally bodies shoving in trucks?
  - tomschlick 5y ago
    Yes, which is why the federal government sent a ton of supplies (more than any other state by a large margin) and a hospital ship there: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2020/04/10/rare-look-stockpile-shows-which-states-got-supplies-amid-covid/5126900002/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2020/04/1...