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This was a good read. It's interesting that you decided to stay in HK after the protests/hostile takeover in 2020. My partner and friends all left HK for the UK

This was a good read. It's interesting that you decided to stay in HK after the protests/hostile takeover in 2020. My partner and friends all left HK for the UK, Australia, and Canada.

larrysalibra 5y ago
Thanks for reading! The stay versus go debate in HK is always very interesting and one that has been going on for decades and will no doubt continue for many people.
- pas 5y ago
  What's the tipping point for you? (Or possible lines in the sand?)
- shell0x 5y ago
  I think it reached a point of no return. HK is still a very special place, but I see a lot of expats leaving for Singapore and Hkers leaving for overseas(BNO visa). Singapore is more stable, but has even less freedoms than HK though.
  - walshemj 5y ago
    Depending on how bad it turns out I could see a wave of HK emigration to the UK. Similar how a lot of Asians living in Africa (Uganda Kenya etc.) did in the 1970's, Without the ethnic cleansing aspect.
    - shell0x 5y ago
      This is already happening: https://www.gov.uk/types-of-british-nationality/british-national-overseas https://www.gov.uk/types-of-british-nationality/british-nati... My friend moved on that visa this week. Before Hong Kongers could get a BNO passport and it wasn’t particularly useful. The British government changed the conditions a year ago, and now it’s an open residence permit with a direct path to full citizenship. There are at least a million people eligible for a BNO passport.
  - allarm 5y ago
    > Singapore is more stable, but has even less freedoms than HK though And it’s getting worse every day. I.e. recently they allowed “social distance enforcement officers” to get into your house to check that you’re not breaking any rules (for instance not having a party with more people than allowed by current regulations). No warrant needed. Non-compliance penalized by up to $10000 and/or jail time.
hitekker 5y ago
> By funding and participating in the system, we give the system legitimacy and only make the system stronger and the problems worse. Exiting is the high leverage and most effective option. Very interesting indeed.

This was a good read. It's interesting that you decided to stay in HK after the protests/hostile takeover in 2020. My partner and friends all left HK for the UK, Australia, and Canada.

larrysalibra 5y ago

Thanks for reading! The stay versus go debate in HK is always very interesting and one that has been going on for decades and will no doubt continue for many people.

pas 5y ago
What's the tipping point for you? (Or possible lines in the sand?)
shell0x 5y ago
I think it reached a point of no return. HK is still a very special place, but I see a lot of expats leaving for Singapore and Hkers leaving for overseas(BNO visa). Singapore is more stable, but has even less freedoms than HK though.
- walshemj 5y ago
  Depending on how bad it turns out I could see a wave of HK emigration to the UK. Similar how a lot of Asians living in Africa (Uganda Kenya etc.) did in the 1970's, Without the ethnic cleansing aspect.
  - shell0x 5y ago
    This is already happening: https://www.gov.uk/types-of-british-nationality/british-national-overseas https://www.gov.uk/types-of-british-nationality/british-nati... My friend moved on that visa this week. Before Hong Kongers could get a BNO passport and it wasn’t particularly useful. The British government changed the conditions a year ago, and now it’s an open residence permit with a direct path to full citizenship. There are at least a million people eligible for a BNO passport.
- allarm 5y ago
  > Singapore is more stable, but has even less freedoms than HK though And it’s getting worse every day. I.e. recently they allowed “social distance enforcement officers” to get into your house to check that you’re not breaking any rules (for instance not having a party with more people than allowed by current regulations). No warrant needed. Non-compliance penalized by up to $10000 and/or jail time.

hitekker 5y ago

> By funding and participating in the system, we give the system legitimacy and only make the system stronger and the problems worse. Exiting is the high leverage and most effective option. Very interesting indeed.