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Tesla CEO berated employees, investors and tried to get rid of safety measures
- iamcreasy 5y agoI guess there are some true facts in this book but I am overall very skeptic of the picture the author is trying to paint or the conclusions he is drawing from those facts. For example, the book says Elon wanted to be Apple's CEO post Tesla acquisition on a phone call. But Elon said it many times over the years that he rather spend his time on engineering and design over management. Edit: Also Tim Cook mentioned in an interview that he never spoke with Elon Musk.
- ngokevin 5y agoWould what Elon says in public be enough to refute? He does say many things (https://elonmusk.today https://elonmusk.today)
- practice9 5y agoThe waterfall of misinformation: 1) Author fabricates "facts" for his book 2) Tabloids copy those "facts" and add filler to fabricate outrage 3) Twitter outrage specialists pick these "facts" up and retweet 4) Other people form their opinion based on 1), 2), 3)
- WA 5y agoYou don’t need to read fabricated facts if you simply can follow Elon on Twitter. If you put down the rose-tinted glasses, you see that he puts out a lot of dumb stuff and many lies.
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- postmeta 5y agoif you think missing self-imposed deadlines is "many lies"
- practice9 5y agoI read his tweets. He posts memes and technical stuff (Tesla, SpaceX news). Most of his tweets about crypto are uninformed. You've got to cherry-pick to find actual lies
- bostonsre 5y agoYes, but he is also building a massive friggin reusable rocket and has built rocket boosters that land. He is emotional because he cares about changing the world for the better. He is a weird dude that has a weird sense of humor. Jumping down his throat for bad jokes seems like it actively hinders human kind's progress.
- ngokevin 5y agoIt's sensible to both not put anyone on a pedestal nor completely villify someone. He's polarizing, for sure. For me, he puts rockets in space, but also spreads a lot of misinformation or lies for self gain. I also don't think just because he's influential that his missteps should be labeled as eccentric versus selfish
- int_19h 5y agoHe isn't building anything, the actual engineers (whom he likely also routinely abuses) do.
- vardump 5y agoAny source for that? He sure seems to know very fine detail of almost anything related to the product. See for example: Everyday Astronaut recent Musk interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t705r8ICkRw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t705r8ICkRw Munro interview with Musk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAtLTLiqNwg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAtLTLiqNwg There are also other examples where Musk talks about things it's hard to imagine of him even being aware of if he's not building anything.
- int_19h 5y agoYou're right, I should be fair: Musk the engineer is building something, but alongside many other people, and his contribution there is not dominant. Musk the entrepreneur isn't building anything, though, and that's what the man mostly is.
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- ngokevin 5y agoAn alternative, more direct route for spreading misinformation: 1) Be infamous 2) Have a Twitter account 3) Lie
- belltaco 5y ago>Other people form their opinion based on 1), 2), 3) Not just opinion but mental disease diagnoses.
- stcredzero 5y ago4) Other people form their opinion based on 1), 2), 3) Predictable. I've known for the better part of a year, that certain groupthink crowds would start to go after Elon Musk. The groupthink crowds eventually go after anyone who thinks for themselves and refuses to bend the knee. Instead of facts, they use circular references and guilt by association. Also: The phenomenon I just described is independent of point on the political spectrum.
- weeblewobble 5y agowhat role do you play in this?
- HWR_14 5y ago> Elon said it many times over the years that he rather spend his time on engineering and design over management. I'm always thrown when public figures who have an obvious incentive to lie are taken at their word in public statements. It happens all the time with politicians and CEOs. If you look at where Musk seems to add value, it's 100% in the management zone. Well, that and the other CEO duties of representing the company to the public.
- iamcreasy 5y agoIn recent interviews - Sandy Munro and Andrej Karpathy vouched his technical capability. But it appears you have made up your mind as it seems to be the simplest answer.
- shadowfox 5y agoNot that OP, but in keeping with his concern about incentives, it is not like Karpathy (at least) has no incentive in keeping Elon Musk's public image intact.
- threeseed 5y agoNot sure if you're an Engineer or not. But it's very common to have people involved in the engineering process e.g. Business Analysts, Project Managers, Testers who have a deep understanding of how things work. And by all accounts have excellent technical capability. That doesn't mean they have the ability to design or build the thing though.
- mdbug 5y agoSandy Munro, by now, is a Tesla shill who can't be taken seriously. Andrej works at Tesla and understandably says nothing bad about his boss. If I thought my boss was technically clueless and needed to say something nice about him, I would probably phrase it the same way: "He's obviously a pretty incredible person in many ways. I'm still trying to really map out his superpowers. He has incredibly well developed intuition in many aspects where he makes the right judgement calls in what I perceive to be a lack of information. Because he's not in detail about all the things but his judgement is extremely good. I still haven't fully understood how that happens."
- threeseed 5y ago> But Elon said it many times over the years that he rather spend his time on engineering and design over management But yet he is still the CEO of Tesla. Just because someone says they want to do something doesn't mean they will.
- matz1 5y agoThose are not contradiction. He is the CEO of tesla because he feel like he has to otherwise tesla will die.
- Pyramus 5y agoAfter everything Elon has said about funding secured, robotaxis, cave divers, journalists, whistleblowers, specs, FSD, Covid, ... I find it puzzling people take everything he says at face value. Yes, he is an incredibly smart and visionary guy, who also has a track record of saying things he doesn't mean.
- anonAndOn 5y agoHe's OCD. If he could find somebody else willing to consistently put in 100 hour weeks and drive the ship the way Elon wants, I think he'd let go of the reigns.
- threeseed 5y agoThere is no evidence that putting in long hours translates to increased productivity or success. But plenty of evidence that it has a lot of negative consequences.
- anonAndOn 5y agoElon's MO is that his supervision and continual input is vital to the success of his companies as they try to execute on his vision. His companies may only exist because of his sheer force of will and his willingness to sacrifice health, wealth and relationships to succeed.
- new_realist 5y agoExtremely busy CEOs speak to other busy CEOs through assistants; otherwise it’s weeks before they can find a common time slot. I doubt the person Cook hung up on was Elon himself.
- newfonewhodis 5y agobut hE's cHANgING THe wORLD
- underseacables 5y agoOh no, a CEO yelled at employees, investors, and cut corners. Steve Jobs must be rolling in his grave. I think the record shows that Tesla, and Musk, have undergone a lot of growing pains and mistakes, but the results speak for themselves.
- ajsnigrutin 5y agoYep... but the book will sell :)
- wly_cdgr 5y agoI mean, if he actually really behaved like that, that's deeply shameful and he should resign
- wly_cdgr 5y agoLook, I have a great deal of respect and affection for Elon. But if you absolutely must behave like a Boer, you do it towards your peers and your superiors. Not towards your subordinates - never towards your subordinates Raging at subordinates is not "passion", it's immaturity and abuse That said, who knows if he ever did/said any of that
- exogeny 5y agoYes, the results do speak for themselves: an unprofitable company with a petulant, childish troll as a CEO. Just because you act like Steve Jobs doesn't mean that you are Steve Jobs. You can ask Adam Neumann about that.
- nemothekid 5y agoFWIW, Tesla isn't unprofitable anymore (even if you remove the EV credits)
- mdoms 5y agoHow about if you remove their bitcoin and doge earnings.
- rebelos 5y agoI've always found the reports of his behind the scenes behavior and its stark contrast with his public persona to be incredibly disturbing, because it paints a picture of someone with psychopathic tendencies. I suspect there's something really dark with him that originates in his childhood (suffered through horrific bullying and a hellishly awful father).
- ProAm 5y ago> stark contrast with his public persona What do you mean? He called a person a pedo in public.
- mhh__ 5y agoThen backed down, while doubling down to a journo, if I have the chronology right.
- rebelos 5y agoTrue. I guess I'm considering his public image in the aggregate, excepting those occasional blunders.
- ChildOfChaos 5y agoHaha that was pretty funny though, an example of playing to his audience in public.
- luffapi 5y agoIt wasn’t funny to call a guy trying to rescue trapped children a “pedo”. That was very public bullying. He says a lot of stupid and hostile stuff. I’m surprised people found his public persona incongruent with the reports of abuse.
- belltaco 5y ago>It wasn’t funny to call a guy trying to rescue trapped children a “pedo” That guy first told Elon to stick his small submarine up his own ass, so maybe he shouldn't have told "a guy trying to rescue trapped children" to sodomize himself with a very large object?
- tinco 5y ago"Tried to get rid of safety measures" He was annoyed at seeing his line stopped, during a crisis, who wouldn't be? He tried to convince them to start it again, but they didn't. If he then overruled them and actually started the line and actually put anyone in danger that would have been a bad thing. But he didn't, and there's no story here. Just an anecdote of an emotional moment. No one believed they could actually pull it off. No one believed they could sell the Model 3 at that price point, at those quantities, in that time span. If they didn't, they were in big trouble. They pulled it together and they actually delivered, maybe a bit later, maybe a bit costlier, but it's running like a train now. I'm nowhere close to that factory, and in no position to judge. But sitting here comfortably on my couch on the other side of the ocean of this factory it seemed to me they pulled off an absolute miracle. I was bearish on Tesla together with almost the entire world (except the crazy people that kept buying the stock despite all the bad news). I'm not surprised some people got yelled at, or some managers and executive staff were laid off. Am I supposed to feel pity for mr Field for being sidelined on the Model 3 line? Surely he was paid handsomely for his work on the Model S? Musk judged him to be unfit for the situation, and whether it was thanks to him, or despite him, the 30,000 Tesla employees kept their jobs and the factory became a success. I'd love to read a book on what happened in the trenches in that factory, but if it's constantly on the edge of drama questioning Musk's every move like this advertorial, I don't really see the use of it.
- awillen 5y agoYeah, I don't get this criticism - obviously he could have gotten rid of whatever safety measures he wanted. Maybe people would have quit or there would have been issues with safety inspections down the line, but he clearly could've done it. Instead, he pushed to try to get rid of them, but ultimately listened to people who had more expertise than him. This is a good thing for a CEO to do - ask hard, big picture questions about the way things are being done, but ultimately accept the answers of the experts you've hired.
- alkonaut 5y agoAnother former exec describes the time when Musk moved his desk to the factory floor to signal the importance of the Model S production crunch, and personally oversee it. However, he was so annoyed by the mandatory honking that factory floor trucks are required to do when approaching a corner, so he swiftly banned that practice… The anecdotes seem to have no end.
- nemothekid 5y agoWhile I'm sure Elon was abusive (like almost every fast growing tech giant except maybe Zuckerberg?), I learned that the author of this book fabricated an entire exchange between Elon and Tim Cook, in which Elon only agreed to sell Tesla to Apple if Elon became the CEO of Apple. Both Elon and Tim Cook say that they have never ever spoken to each other as Tim Cook denied the request to meet with Elon.
- nerbert 5y agoMany facts that cannot be proven or documented are most likely fabricated to fit in a biography that sounds too artificial to be real.
- threeseed 5y ago> like almost every fast growing tech giant This is rubbish and actually offensive. Tim Cook, Sundar Pichai, Jack Dorsey, Patrick Collison, Brian Chesky etc. are not abusive. And in fact if you look at all of the fastest growing companies the pattern is for them to be moved out if they are abusive or have troubling behaviour. Stop perpetuating this myth that the industry tolerates behaviours that other companies don't because by doing so it actually encourages it.
- nemothekid 5y agoNeither Tim Cook nor Sundar Pichai "count" as both became CEO when those companies were already S&P 500 components. That said I did not mean to imply that fast growing companies could only be built by abusive CEOs and I apologize for claiming otherwise.
- cromwellian 5y agoLarry and Sergey weren't abusive either, neither was Eric Schmidt. Maybe they were privately to VPs or Directors, but except for the time when Larry wanted to fire all of middle management, I haven't heard any stories of Larry publicly berating non-c-suite employees.
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- fallingknife 5y ago> About thirty minutes into the call, one Wall Street analyst asked when the company would reach its gross margin target for the Model 3, which, he said, the company had seemingly pushed back by six to nine months. Musk interrupted as his CFO tried to explain, saying it would be resolved in a few months. “Don’t make a federal case out of it,” Musk said snarkily. The analyst turned to Tesla’s cash needs. Musk interrupted again as the analyst elaborated. “Boring, bonehead questions are not cool,” he said. “Next.” Not how I would have handled it, but actually correct. Tesla at that point was just starting mass production and was trading at a VC valuation multiple. Elon was absolutely correct to focus on ramping production and selling as many cars as possible. Would have been a waste of time to focus on financial metrics like gross margin in the near term. Oh, and those investors who sold after the call? TSLA stock is up ~20x since then.
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- kneel 5y agoDid something actually happen or is this just clickbait to sell a book?
- tzekid 5y agoOnly beefed up anecdotes. Author just wants to get clicks and sell his book.
- trentnix 5y agoAs Moe Green said: I got a business to run! I gotta kick asses sometimes to make it run right! Regardless of whether Elon Musk has been sufficiently sensitive to the emotional needs of the people around him, his accomplishments (across a wide range of business and engineer problems) speak for themselves. If feelings get hurt in the process, whatever.
- NorwegianDude 5y agoSomewhat of topic but: > Tesla co-founder and CEO Elon Musk Why do people keep thinking Elon founded Tesla? Pretty sure he wasn't one of the founders, so I don't get why people think so.
- forgotmysn 5y agowhen he invested, he was granted the title of both ceo and co-founder, even though the company was already 4 or 5 years old iirc
- ajayyy 5y agoThe founder sued him for it. The result of the lawsuit leaves him as a co-founder legally
- cjpearson 5y agoBecause he calls himself a founder and Tesla calls him a founder. Basically a Ray Kroc situation.
- nabla9 5y agoThere were two founders originally, Eberhard and Tarpenning. Musk was just a investor. After Eberhard left he sued Tesla for trying to rewrite history. Then he settled with agreement that Musk and two others (Straubel and Wright) were added to the list of founders. Money solves these things. Now Musk is now officially a Founder.
- NorwegianDude 5y agoEither you are a founder, or you're not. It can't be changed, the same way we can't change who was the first man on the moon. Musk isn't a founder of Tesla, and that also means that he'll never be the founder of tesla.
- Artistry121 5y agoHe has done a good job and intentional job of making it seem like he was - and both original founders left soon after he started making active moves as an investor. I've been a big fan but this series of videos is tempering my understanding: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-FGwDDc-s8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-FGwDDc-s8
- bumbada 5y agoMusk said he was going to automate the factory and he is going to automate the factory, no matter what. Musk is a visionary, he lives in the future. For him the future is as real as the present, and has a clear pathway for it. He is going to make mistakes and some pathways are impossible to transit, but the goal remains the same and he will find a new way to go there. No matter if it takes five years and it is not possible now, but he will do it. Field is a different kind of person. Things are the way they are, if nobody has done something before, it is impossible. For him not being able to automate things at first is a proof that he is right and Musk is wrong and things are impossible to automate further, forever. Obviously both personalities are going to clash, only one can prevail. It happens in every single company out there. If two co founders have different values and ideas of what the company should do, there is a clash. Being the most shorted company in Human history, there has always been a huge economic interest in portraying Musk badly and making shares go down. If what the article says is the most serious thing they could find, I don't see the problems. I have worked in the industry as an engineer in Europe and we had way more serious problems every single week.
- cromwellian 5y agoLook at SpaceX/Starbase. The dude is crazy. He accelerated development over a week or two and the time series of photos of the site show epic progress. They installed 29 (!) Raptor engines in a single night with incredibly complex plumbing. They had 23 people working inside the diameter of the rocket. Granted, he is rushing the SuperHeavy orbital build with reckless abandon, and a bad weld or connection somewhere means a multi-kiloton bomb blowing up on the launch pad (See Russian N1 launch), but you have to admire how fast SpaceX does things compared to ULA. I mean, how many decades were people promising satellite internet? Iridium? Bill Gates Teledesic? OneWeb? etc. Starlink has put up satellites at a record pace compared to those projects. Again, with problems no one considered 10 years ago, like fucking up ground based astronomy. Blue Origin hasn't even made it to orbit yet, but SpaceX has landed boosters 100 times, created the Falcon Heavy, the Crew Dragon, etc How many times has Starliner failed and been delayed? It's not even as capable as the Crew Dragon either. I'm just saying, Musk has a "move fast and break things" iteration approach, the opposite of waterfall. He develops cars and rockets almost like people slap together websites. And it seems to be working, despite being a dickhead to employees, he's created a huge EV car company, and a huge world leading aerospace company.
- rendall 5y agoI don't know why anyone would take that book seriously. The author made up the story about Musk demanding to be CEO of Apple, then doubled down when both Musk and Cook denied it. An astonishing example of journalistic malpractice. In any other time this would be career-ending https://twitter.com/timkhiggins/status/1421156081041088512?s=20 https://twitter.com/timkhiggins/status/1421156081041088512?s...
- gamblor956 5y agoThe author did not make up the story; he is simply relaying a story that multiple current and former Tesla employees said they were told...by Musk himself. As actually relayed in the book, the point of the story is not that Musk actually wanted to become CEO of Apple-Tesla (the author notes that the story is implausible), but that Musk felt the need to burnish his image by making up such a story in the first place.
- rendall 5y agoOk. I understand better. The contention is that Musk told a tall, entertaining tale that was untrue. Fair. But also that the tale indicates something dark about Musk's character? That seems a stretch.
- yawaworht1978 5y agoThere was "pedo guy", there was cacophony to his wife about the loss of a child, now yelling at employees. Can't be isolated incidents I would think.
- udev 5y agoI've been observing one thing about Musk... He seems to not have a surgically precise thinking at all times like some smart people do, but he is always right in the stochastic sense if you will, over longer periods of time, he tends to be exactly right. (And I agree that he can be despicable at times. To me the "pedo" thing is unforgivable.)
- me_me_me 5y ago> over longer periods of time, he tends to be exactly right. Like he was with the faster tunnel digging, or rockets instead of planes, or hyperloop, or the tunnel thing that is not a subway because its different. All of his successful businesses were already established tech, he gathered the experts and funding to build a company. Its great and congratulation for being successful business builder. But he failed at every 'future' tech ideas.
- Dumblydorr 5y agoMusk and Jobs were both extremely mean and degrading to employees. How do we reconcile the revolutionary nature of their products with the terrible behavior of their childish CEOs? Is it really that hard to calmly criticize? Maybe the stress of these duties drives susceptible personalities into berating and belittling?
- cronix 5y agoThis reads almost identically to Steve Jobs history at Apple revealed in Walter Isaacson's biography of him. > But it’s a difficult and exhausting book. Jobs was a world-class asshole. He was a selfish, self-centered man who heaped abuse on everyone around him. After a few hours, the catalog of tantrums, tirades and put-downs wears thin. You may have huge admiration for Jobs’s accomplishments, but it can be hard to hear in detail how the sausage was made. > He was brutal about it. At one point, he decided to lay off most of the staff that worked on the Lisa, the unsuccessful precursor to the Macintosh: > “You guys failed,” he said, looking directly at the Lisa team. “You’re a B team. B players. Too many people here are B or C players, so today we are releasing some of you to have the opportunity to work at our sister companies here in the valley.” > Most people are socialized to be nice to others, to value friendship or feelings over the interests of the corporation. Jobs turned those priorities on their head. When asked why he was so nasty, he said it made the company better. “Part of my responsibility is to be a yardstick of quality,” he told BusinessWeek. “Some people aren’t used to an environment where excellence is expected.” https://www.cultofmac.com/126245/steve-jobs-the-world-class-asshole-who-dented-the-universe-walter-isaacson-biography-review/ https://www.cultofmac.com/126245/steve-jobs-the-world-class-...
- lateobserver 5y agoIt's almost as if both have the same syndrome. Some people find these behaviors odd. I find odd finding these behaviors odd.
- clairity 5y ago> > “You guys failed,” he said, looking directly at the Lisa team. “You’re a B team. B players. Too many people here are B or C players, so today we are releasing some of you to have the opportunity to work at our sister companies here in the valley.” perhaps it happened this way and jobs was overly caustic, but zooming out from that emotionality, the designated outcome was not necessarily a bad one. it's in fact the basis of creative destruction. when a team fails (and for setbacks in general), disbanding and allowing new teams to form can be net positive.
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- lateobserver 5y agoEnvy runs very high on the internet. You will now see "psychiatrists", "judges", "moral priests", condemning Elon's behavior. They are mostly driven by envy and greed. Elon is a driven person that can be temperamental when things don't get done. If that's not your style you don't have to work with him. He didn't cross any lines and at the end his company has been extremely successful to everybody's benefit.
- keewee7 5y agoThe progressive young Americans behind the Occupy Wall Street movement in 2011 have now become artists, journalists, marketing people etc. They now wield enormous social and cultural power and judging by twitter most of them still hold very anti-capitalist and anti-billionaire views. Maybe it's time for Musk and Bezos to leave America. Buying a dying newspaper will not undo a whole generation of Americans' hatred for capitalism and billionaires. A hatred that has now reached almost comically hysterical levels.
- Niglodonicus 5y agoCareful mate, those boots are lodged so far down your throat you're liable to suffocate.
- rconti 5y agoI don't see why everything needs to be so black and white. Must we put up with literally anything and everything, in order to appease the poor downtrodden billionaires who will threaten to take their ball and go home? By your logic, I should leave America, because I am certainly paying a higher tax rate than most of these people. Why is it that some people fetishize the accumulation of vast amounts of capital to the extent that they would support those people fleeing the country to avoid any responsibility for what they've wrought? All because a few people on Twitter (protip: don't use Twitter) say mean things? I don't really understand where it is in that natural order of things that, the more money you have, the more unquestioned you should be. That the more money you have, the more you should escape criticism, taxation, etc. What drives presumably ordinary people to put these superhero rich people above any reproach whatsoever? Some people, for no apparent reason, feel that to be pro-capitalism, we must REJECT any rules, and applaud those who skirt rules they disagree with. Does this mean, because I have a fast car, I should be able to drive as fast as I want, but someone in an economy car should have to follow the speed limit? That the speed limit is more unfair to me? I'm very pro-markets, but I don't understand why this means there should be no regulation, and we should be more sympathetic to the rich than to the poor; why the rich should be able to skip out on laws and regulation just to keep them happy. It's only reasonable to create a socially-useful playing field, and ask that everyone follow the rules.
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- Niglodonicus 5y agoAbsolutely wild how many of you goobers defend this heinous charlatan and others like him. But what do I know? I'm not a temporarily inconvenienced billionaire!
- Niglodonicus 5y agoreeeeeeeeeeeeeetards
- BugsJustFindMe 5y ago> reeeeeeeeeeeeeetards You should read https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- Niglodonicus 5y agoBootlicker.
- supperburg 5y agoI was an EV enthusiast in 2010. It was a very painful time to be an EV enthusiast. It was almost like a curse because the car companies would seemingly do the exact worst thing every time they made an EV. It was so bizarre to watch the global automotive market basically make such a massive oversight over and over again. There was always murmurs about an EV that looked like a normal car that had good pack thermals and longer range. It was so simple to do and yet nobody did it. That vacuum just sat there for decades. And then Elon musk came along. Nobody knew who Elon musk was. Literally nobody. But people in the EV enthusiast community came to know everything about Elon musk in 2008+ because he was the person in charge of the only company in the entire world that seemed to have the ability and intention of filling that vacuum. I watched every single interview, read every article and every quote. And back then he wasn’t famous so there wasn’t a bunch of noise around his name. And for about a decade I did this. And all I can tell you is what I saw with my own eyes. He is a real engineer, that’s not a scam. He has the sensibility and knowledge of an engineer. That was very clear over the years. He did in fact make Tesla what it is today, it’s not some kind of scam. 90% of the times that people said he wouldn’t/couldn’t do something that he said he would do, he did it. People sometimes forget that this has been going on for a long time now, and the first time people said he could never ever make something work was the model s. And people really meant that. Why are some people Tesla fans? Don’t they know Elon musk is an asshole? Consider this: an EV enthusiast starts out in 2008. Tesla, which is really just a proxy for musk, delivers the best EV maybe ever. Then he says he’s going to build the model s. Then everyone says he can’t do that and then he delivers the model s anyway, certainly the best Ev ever. Then repeat that one two three four five times and throw in basically the worlds charging infrastructure. People are fans because Elon musk delivers what they want, he fills those difficult vacuums that only exist because of the complacency of others. It’s no different than Steve Jobs really. So you can say he’s an asshole and a psychopath… that’s not going to change anything because the fanboys aren’t as stupid as you think. They judge a person based on their verified history of behavior and Elon musk has a verified history of delivering. Nobody cares if he yelled at someone. And for all the people who want to cancel him, shame on you. All you’ll be doing is replacing him with someone who’s probably more psychopathic, yells at more employees and doesn’t deliver anything in the end. If you don’t like him, don’t work for him.
- justicezyx 5y agoSince when Musk becomes co founder of Tesla? ...
- magnetowasright 5y agoWhen he bought the title after the founding of the company, totally normal.
- mrdude42 5y agoFunny how articles like this seem to always get posted when the Tesla stock price starts going on another up-swing
- fennecfoxy 5y agoIs this an ad for a book?