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The death rate in Florida is 180/100k [1]. That's pretty close to the national average. If the entire US had gone like Florida, then instead of 613k deaths, we'
by munificent 5y ago
The death rate in Florida is 180/100k [1]. That's pretty close to the national average. If the entire US had gone like Florida, then instead of 613k deaths, we'd have 590k. So, yes, Florida was better than average despite not having a severe lockdown. But Florida also has fairly separated populations: a lot of old people very likely to get vaccinated, and a lot of young people very likely to survive.
For comparison, Oregon had a pretty hard lockdown. Its death rate is 68/100k. If the entire US had that same death rate, 390,000 Americans would still be alive today.
If you look at the data, it is clear that lockdown is not the only thing affecting death rate. But it also seems pretty obvious that social distancing did have a significant impact on the number of people who died. There are thousands of Americans that are dead today because people wanted to go to a party, or a restaurant, or a wedding.
[1]: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covi...
- edmundsauto 5y agoDidn't Florida just set an all-time 1 day record for new case counts last week? These numbers might shift significantly in the next month or two.
- bpodgursky 5y agoDeaths in the US (like in the UK) are barely moving unlike during the other waves b/c of elderly vaccination rates. I really doubt this will budge the aggregate fatality rates much at all.
- edmundsauto 5y agoI agree if your denominator is infected to death rate. If you’re talking relative to state population, then 5k extra deaths moves the needle. But, whatever. 5000 people dead - it’s just a number, right? Thank goodness we are all coping with the pandemic with statistics.
- refurb 5y agoIs anyone adjusting for demographics? I’d assume FL has way more older folks than Oregon. It’s like a preschool not locking down, having zero deaths then patting themselves on the back for it.
- logicchains 5y ago>There are thousands of Americans that are dead today because people wanted to go to a party, or a restaurant, or a wedding. And there are tens of thousands of Americans who willingly gave their lives fighting in wars so that Americans (and citizens of various allied countries) could still do such things and live freely. A life driven just by fear of death is barely a life at all.
- brnt 5y agoDiseases and fascists are however entirely different, so I'm not sure your example proves anything.