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Also lots of previously vaccinated people were exposed, but didn’t get infected. Doesn’t mean their immune system did nothing though. I’d wager a lot of UK pop

Also lots of previously vaccinated people were exposed, but didn’t get infected. Doesn’t mean their immune system did nothing though. I’d wager a lot of UK population basically got an ”organic 3rd vaccine dose”. My prediction is they have probably the highest immunity rates in the world atm

bostik 5y ago
> a lot of UK population basically got an ”organic 3rd vaccine dose”. Isn't that how the vaccination regime is supposed to work, actually? With two jabs in, contracting Covid still comes with something like 4%..20% hit rate.[ß] However, with two jabs the risk of hospitalisation is mercifully low, and roughly half of the cases are asymptomatic. So instead of vaccinated people overloading the NHS, when they do get unlucky, they are much more likely to get through with only mild symptoms. For majority that "organic 3rd dose" works as a booster shot. They can still infect others, though... NB. As far as I know, there are no good studies on how Long Covid manifests in a vaccinated population. I think the working assumption is that very mild symptomatic Covid also ends up with less severe Long Covid, but have heard of no data to back that up. ß: Depending on the study, the vaccine in question and the variant. IIRC 2xPfizer provides ~88% protection against Delta, 95%+ against earlier non-Beta variants; 2xAstraZeneca provides 60%+ protection against Delta, 90%+ against non-Betas. Disclosure: UK resident, with two jabs.
- mattlondon 5y ago
  As far as I know, long covid is directly related to how sick you get. you hear all these stories of people being bed bound for a week or more, high fever, struggling to breathe, etc etc. I'd think it sounds quite a lot like those people were really rather ill. I don't think people should expect to go back to running marathons or whatever a week after fighting to survive It's the same for flu and other major viral infections. It can take a while to get back to full health - I don't think covid is anything new here? Just the usual "you almost died"?
  - nradov 5y ago
    Right many types of viral infections can cause post viral fatigue syndrome. This is nothing really new, it's just getting more attention now because of the sudden surge of cases. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3063394/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3063394/

bostik 5y ago

> a lot of UK population basically got an ”organic 3rd vaccine dose”. Isn't that how the vaccination regime is supposed to work, actually? With two jabs in, contracting Covid still comes with something like 4%..20% hit rate.[ß] However, with two jabs the risk of hospitalisation is mercifully low, and roughly half of the cases are asymptomatic. So instead of vaccinated people overloading the NHS, when they do get unlucky, they are much more likely to get through with only mild symptoms. For majority that "organic 3rd dose" works as a booster shot. They can still infect others, though... NB. As far as I know, there are no good studies on how Long Covid manifests in a vaccinated population. I think the working assumption is that very mild symptomatic Covid also ends up with less severe Long Covid, but have heard of no data to back that up. ß: Depending on the study, the vaccine in question and the variant. IIRC 2xPfizer provides ~88% protection against Delta, 95%+ against earlier non-Beta variants; 2xAstraZeneca provides 60%+ protection against Delta, 90%+ against non-Betas. Disclosure: UK resident, with two jabs.

mattlondon 5y ago
As far as I know, long covid is directly related to how sick you get. you hear all these stories of people being bed bound for a week or more, high fever, struggling to breathe, etc etc. I'd think it sounds quite a lot like those people were really rather ill. I don't think people should expect to go back to running marathons or whatever a week after fighting to survive It's the same for flu and other major viral infections. It can take a while to get back to full health - I don't think covid is anything new here? Just the usual "you almost died"?
- nradov 5y ago
  Right many types of viral infections can cause post viral fatigue syndrome. This is nothing really new, it's just getting more attention now because of the sudden surge of cases. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3063394/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3063394/