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Is the current world any different from Skyrim or Game of Thrones? Do you think it should be? Real, not facetious questions I'd be curious to discuss.

joelbluminator 5y ago
Not sure what you're asking. I think from the dissident's point of view it's a tragedy. From Israel's point of view it's business and maintaining good relationships with people who can become an enemy in a heartbeat. How is this different from Western countries selling arms by the billions? That's also not always about money but about diplomacy.
- JohnFen 5y ago
  > How is this different from Western countries selling arms by the billions? It's not. It's equally despicable.
  - joelbluminator 5y ago
    It's factually not equally despicable. I don't remember reading about some U.S/French company selling arms to Saudi Arabia as a major news story. Definitely not on Hacker News.
    - JohnFen 5y ago
      I can't speak to HN (although it seems to me that spy tools are more in line with HN areas of interest than arms sales), but if you haven't noticed that US arms sales to Saudi Arabia (and other nations) were major news stories, then I can't help you. Because they absolutely have been, and likely will continue to be. Even if that weren't true, I don't see how the amount of press coverage something gets speaks to whether or not that thing is despicable.
- cheif-lama 5y ago
  How naive, Do you think these dictators represent their people? Even the simple semantics can't make that allowance. These dictators are the reason Israel is protected, and both Israel and America spend billions plus to ensure they remain in power. This elusive enmity, that can spring back in eyeblink, is created by Israel, it was not there for thousands of year. In fact, if it was not for Muslims there won't be Jews today. Zinosts know that and they know how to manuveur Americans, who else can explain this better than Netanyahu himself: https://twitter.com/trtworld/status/1398806365078962178 https://twitter.com/trtworld/status/1398806365078962178 Quickly read it because I have gut feeling my freedom of speech is going to get revoked soon. https://twitter.com/Farid_0v/status/1393786856916062209 https://twitter.com/Farid_0v/status/1393786856916062209
raxxorrax 5y ago
I think it should be different. I don't think people should expect Israel to start because it is one of the few countries that doesn't just sell arms for profit, but for specific strategic interests. If you want Israel to start for some reason, I think it is fair that you need to call them Gods chosen people at the minimum, because your heightened expectations would warrant that.

joelbluminator 5y ago

Not sure what you're asking. I think from the dissident's point of view it's a tragedy. From Israel's point of view it's business and maintaining good relationships with people who can become an enemy in a heartbeat. How is this different from Western countries selling arms by the billions? That's also not always about money but about diplomacy.

JohnFen 5y ago
> How is this different from Western countries selling arms by the billions? It's not. It's equally despicable.
- joelbluminator 5y ago
  It's factually not equally despicable. I don't remember reading about some U.S/French company selling arms to Saudi Arabia as a major news story. Definitely not on Hacker News.
  - JohnFen 5y ago
    I can't speak to HN (although it seems to me that spy tools are more in line with HN areas of interest than arms sales), but if you haven't noticed that US arms sales to Saudi Arabia (and other nations) were major news stories, then I can't help you. Because they absolutely have been, and likely will continue to be. Even if that weren't true, I don't see how the amount of press coverage something gets speaks to whether or not that thing is despicable.
cheif-lama 5y ago
How naive, Do you think these dictators represent their people? Even the simple semantics can't make that allowance. These dictators are the reason Israel is protected, and both Israel and America spend billions plus to ensure they remain in power. This elusive enmity, that can spring back in eyeblink, is created by Israel, it was not there for thousands of year. In fact, if it was not for Muslims there won't be Jews today. Zinosts know that and they know how to manuveur Americans, who else can explain this better than Netanyahu himself: https://twitter.com/trtworld/status/1398806365078962178 https://twitter.com/trtworld/status/1398806365078962178 Quickly read it because I have gut feeling my freedom of speech is going to get revoked soon. https://twitter.com/Farid_0v/status/1393786856916062209 https://twitter.com/Farid_0v/status/1393786856916062209

raxxorrax 5y ago

I think it should be different. I don't think people should expect Israel to start because it is one of the few countries that doesn't just sell arms for profit, but for specific strategic interests. If you want Israel to start for some reason, I think it is fair that you need to call them Gods chosen people at the minimum, because your heightened expectations would warrant that.