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As a EU citizen I don't criticise Israel for their weapon exports to much as that would be heavily hypocritical and it would also neglect the fact that EU offic
by raxxorrax 5y ago
As a EU citizen I don't criticise Israel for their weapon exports to much as that would be heavily hypocritical and it would also neglect the fact that EU officials actually want to implement said surveillance towards its citizens. That is not a fault of Israel, even if you want it to be.
- wizzwizz4 5y agoSurely it is a fault of Israel – and also the EU? Just because our lot do it too, that doesn't stop it being a problem.
- raxxorrax 5y agoI would feel pretty stupid to criticise Israel when it comes out that my own government ordered their software. They supposedly didn't buy it, but it was on the table for negotiation.
- wizzwizz4 5y agoIf you feel stupid saying something that indirectly criticises your government, democracy shall soon fall.
- raxxorrax 5y agoNo. I will criticize such decision but Israel is the wrong address in this case.
- tremon 5y agoWhy? Were you party to that decision of your government?
- raxxorrax 5y agoI live in a democracy so I am partially responsible for anything my government does. Even and especially when it does something I don't like.
- effie 5y agoYes if you voted for that government, otherwise no.
- wizzwizz4 5y agoI'd argue you still have responsibility for your government's actions, regardless if you voted for them. Your responsibility as a citizen is to hold your government accountable, whether that's by voting, writing letters, talking, protesting, or (in the extreme case) civil disobedience or rebellion. Unfortunately, the more important it is to hold your government to account, the harder it is. I, personally, don't have the strength to do that, for all I talk of it.
- effie 5y agoYes oversight and influence on the government is responsibility of citizens. It does not mean that citizen is responsible for government's actions (as in I am member of a group of people to blame for their government's actions). These two responsibilities are two very different things.
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